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    Just interesting UK medical

    Sore throat? See a chemist, NOT your GP: Pharmacists to give patients on-the-spot tests to see if they need antibiotics for winter bugs in a bid to save the NHS £34million a year

    Read more: Patients with sore throats told to see a chemist NOT a GP in plan to save NHS £34m | Daily Mail Online

    Could this come to Australia? Is it a good or bad thing? How big could this program expand? ...I dunno.... but it is interesting ....

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    Bad thing.

    Very bad.

    The use of antibiotics should be an option of last resort. The problem with the overuse of antibiotics is we will develop strains that are resistant to our current crop of antibiotics. The problem is antibiotics don't grow in labs, and once the current set of antibiotics become useless we're all up shit creek. As it is antibiotics are over prescribed anyway...

    Doctors and GP's should be the only ones to prescribe antibiotics. Pharmacists should stick to prescribing panadol and strepsils.
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    I think the very problem is doctors overprescribing. Whether that be due to kickbacks from drug companies, ignorance and laziness, or just the fact that they are exhausted from overwork, I do not know. I think pharmacists doing it would be fine. Most pharmacists I have come across are far more critical in determining whether it is the right product for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmoose View Post
    Most pharmacists I have come across are far more critical in determining whether it is the right product for you.
    But without the medical training that doctors go through, how are the pharmacists to decide a) if the condition is bacterial or viral b) if the condition is severe enough to require the use of antibiotics and c) which antibiotic in particular should be used based on the type of condition.

    Pharmacists can look up your prescription history to see if a medication will interfere with any medications you are currently taking and can provide advice on how to take the product etc. but they completely lack the extended medical training that doctors have.

    And pharmacists are hardly exempt from kickbacks from drug companies since they are the ones selling them ;-) I've had several run ins with my pharmacist trying to push a certain brand of drug on me over the ones I've been taking for twenty years, so much so that I've had to go to another pharmacist who will supply me with what I ask for. I've even had a pharmacist tell me I shouldn't be on one of my medications.... I let her know I'll be taking the advice of a specialist doctor with over 40 years experience over her suggestion any day

    IMO allowing pharmacists to prescribe medication isn't the greatest idea.
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    Ive been precribed anti biotic once in my life for a tooth abscess. I do know people who ask for them for a common cold and get them. In the end it comes down to the specific doctor/pharmacist. Although leaving in the hands of pharmacists will increase use I feel. Most wont knock back a sale. Only thing that cures a common cold is rest.
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    Under a national scheme to modernise the health service, anyone with a sore throat will be able to visit a local pharmacy for a test to determine if it is caused by a virus, meaning drugs will be of no help, or by a bacterial infection.

    Doctors have been renowned for prescribing antibiotics to 'cure' viral infections.

    On a related note, do you think it's normal that my doc performs a digital rectal examination, to test whether my sore throat is bacterial, or viral?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmoose View Post
    On a related note, do you think it's normal that my doc performs a digital rectal examination, to test whether my sore throat is bacterial, or viral?
    Um... No. WTF?
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    When I saw this article I kinda wondered that if this is successful where would the doctors role begin and end?

    Mental health here for example is under immense strain and alot of people speak more to the chemist then they do thier doctors... So what about anti depressants which are seen as benign? It would be cost cutting measure under any eco rational government?

    Or maybe giving power of pain killers back to the chemist when it is seen how much more it will cost government to make people go to the doctor for more codeine etc

    What about other meds for common conditions?

    Certainly interesting ... and even more so when you consider that the pharmacy guild in Australia is one of the more powerful here .... it will be interesting too to see in time which way they jump

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    Anti depressants are anything but benign. Bldy evil things, and should NOT be used except under medical supervision.
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    Agree completely with you Fab - but officially they are considered relatively benign and non addictive - so until this changes in the med community - such things as over the counter anti depressants could in theory in the future become a real world possibility

    Especially if programs like this are expanded for other meds into other countries like ours


    Quote Originally Posted by fabricator4 View Post
    Anti depressants are anything but benign. Bldy evil things, and should NOT be used except under medical supervision.
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