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    HC flavour concentrates

    Hi everyone,

    I got me some HC flavours with my unflavoured nic order (100%PG, 36mg) and I've got some VG locally.

    I've got no idea where to start with mixing the flavours into the PG.

    Any guides on where to start ?

    Just for giggles, I made up 10ml 50/50 to give me 18%, and added 10 drops of coffee flavour..... did not want to wait for it to steep, and its got quite a strong TH, with a fairly hefty taste. Should I try more VG for the TH ?

    So should I be starting about 5 drops for 10ml of juice? (i realise its not that scientific to work in mls and drops, but ... ya-know!) Any idea if this will be the same for most of the flavours I got ?

    Cheers guys
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    Mate use this to help you out.
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    just take your time,read all the items put in what you do know ie what strength your nic is,what strength you want in finished mix,volume you want,pg/vg mix you want etc etc then hit calculate..

    start small as well (just till you get the hang of things..

    then yell for more help if stuck
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    Thanks Olfella,

    I've also got ejuice me up.

    What I need is a starting point for the concentrates. Without one, It's pure guesswork. HC website doesn't give any indication of what % the concentrate should be as an 'ideal mix'

    I see another site say something like 2.5 - 5% would that be a reasonable assumption, if for example they were sourcing their flavours from the same source (I am assuming the concentrates I have are hangsen here) ?

    As it stands now, my first mix has calmed down a lot in terms of flavour over the afternoon.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Altered1 View Post
    Thanks Olfella,

    I've also got ejuice me up.

    What I need is a starting point for the concentrates. Without one, It's pure guesswork. HC website doesn't give any indication of what % the concentrate should be as an 'ideal mix'

    I see another site say something like 2.5 - 5% would that be a reasonable assumption, if for example they were sourcing their flavours from the same source (I am assuming the concentrates I have are hangsen here) ?

    As it stands now, my first mix has calmed down a lot in terms of flavour over the afternoon.
    I started out by finding a couple of really simple recipes, and also mixing single flavours to judge the strength, (everyone has different views on what strength is right for them), I started low, and added more flavour concentrates until I got the right strength for me. I wrote down everything in a diary because this gave me a good idea of what percentage to mix each flavour, and brand of concentrate, (they are all different again, just to make it more difficult). Its easier to add more concentrate, than it is to dilute down a mix, which is why I always start low.

    Once I got the hang of it I then started making my own recipes, and thats when the fun really starts

    Just keep at it, and keep good records, I guarantee you will refer back to your strength percentages again and again.

    2.5% is a good place to start for most concentrates, but if you're using strong concentrates, (you'll be able to smell them much more strongly), such as cinnamon, some tobacco flavours, menthol, and some fruit flavours, better to start at 1%. A good way to judge strength is to put a few drop in 10ml of water, and swish it around your mouth for a few seconds. This is a good way to judge whether the flavour will be over/under strength when you mix it.

    Its a pretty steep learning curve at the beginning, so relax a little and take things slowly, enjoy the journey, and in no time at all I will expect to see your recipes in the recipe thread
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    Cheers spud - good idea on the water and flavour .. I'll give it a go, and start at 2.5 as you suggest - less for stronger ones




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    I find with HC concentrates, most of the fruit types need to be used at around 10%, some as much as 20%, the mints are good at 5% or below.
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    Good on ya Noe, thanks




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    FWIW

    Here are my first attempts at mixing. comments and steep times included.

    Mix 1
    50/50 18mg Coffee
    20 drops Flavour
    Steep time
    16 hours, similar to commercial DK, a bit lighter.
    24 hours after adding 10 more drops - yummy.

    Mix 2
    40/60 14.4mg Watermelon
    15 drops flavor
    Steep time
    16 hours - too lite - added another 10 drops
    24 hours - not too bad, but could need a touch more, but afraid it will be overdone. slightly synthetic taste.

    Mix 3
    40/60 14.4 Blackberry
    15 drops flavor
    Steep time
    18 hours - too lite - added 10 drops
    24 hours - probably needs a touch more

    Mix 4
    Feel life Gold and Silver 18mg ready made
    5ml
    + 15 drops Menthol
    Steep time none
    Comment
    now vapable, menthol soft, probably needs a touch more

    Mix 5
    Lemon and Vanilla 18mg
    50/50
    15 drops of each
    Steep time 5 hours
    The lemon tastes and smells like lemon Jif.... Vanilla far to underpowered.

    Mix 6

    RY4
    50/50 estimate 15mg
    4.5ml PG and 4.5ml VG
    20 drops concentrate
    still steeping
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altered1 View Post
    FWIW

    Here are my first attempts at mixing. comments and steep times included.

    Mix 1
    50/50 18mg Coffee
    20 drops Flavour
    Steep time
    16 hours, similar to commercial DK, a bit lighter.
    24 hours after adding 10 more drops - yummy.

    Mix 2
    40/60 14.4mg Watermelon
    15 drops flavor
    Steep time
    16 hours - too lite - added another 10 drops
    24 hours - not too bad, but could need a touch more, but afraid it will be overdone. slightly synthetic taste.

    Mix 3
    40/60 14.4 Blackberry
    15 drops flavor
    Steep time
    18 hours - too lite - added 10 drops
    24 hours - probably needs a touch more

    Mix 4
    Feel life Gold and Silver 18mg ready made
    5ml
    + 15 drops Menthol
    Steep time none
    Comment
    now vapable, menthol soft, probably needs a touch more

    Mix 5
    Lemon and Vanilla 18mg
    50/50
    15 drops of each
    Steep time 5 hours
    The lemon tastes and smells like lemon Jif.... Vanilla far to underpowered.

    Mix 6

    RY4
    50/50 estimate 15mg
    4.5ml PG and 4.5ml VG
    20 drops concentrate
    still steeping
    These are all 10ml amounts?
    That would make most of them close to 10%
    General rule of thumb 30 drops = 1ml approx.
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    Awesome Altered1 I just DIY testers up from HC tonight. I'm watching this space to see how you go with these.

 

 
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