Its a funny old ball game, this vaping caper. So many variables and reactions people are having. Arth, I hope you sort it out pronto!! I think Kays lucky to be able to stretch the doublers and triplers out so far. Hopefully this will be the solution that you are looking for. I kind of enjoy plain myself, it is much cleaner and I reckon probably a little safer, not that I know the meaning of the word safe when it comes to caring for my own body. Keep us informed about your progress. I started off on cartos and would hate to have to go back to them. The idea of having to throw them out grates on me big time. Waste is BAD!!!!