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    The AVF Rules

    [Rules] Aussievapers Forum Rules by juddy

    This thread is to set some pretty basic and commonsense rules that will apply to Aussievapers Forum (“AVF”).
    They will be policed and enforced as consistently as possible.
    They may be refined or altered as seen fit.

    Abuse

    We encourage rigorous debate as long as it stays on topic and subject. If you attack the man then you risk infractions or bans; when responding, attack the argument not the poster.

    Swearing

    We don’t mind a bit of swearing, however, the ‘C’ word (yes you all know what this is) is not acceptable.
    Telling people to ‘**** off’ is also not acceptable.

    Banned Words

    Words such as retard, mong, spastic and other similar terms will not be tolerated when used in a derogatory fashion. If you are unsure what is acceptable use something generic and as inoffensive as possible, i.e. ‘flog’.

    Banned Term

    Using the term "****" to describe anything is likely to see you earn a holiday.

    Personal Details

    Posting any information on or ridiculing the personal details (real name, photos, job, place of residence, marital status or family members etc) of another poster will also earn you a nice holiday from AVF.

    Starting Threads/Posting

    Rule 1 – General e-cig discussion
    Remember that this is a e-cig/vaping board, so keep your threads (and posts) e-cig/vaping related. Any social or off-topic style threads will probably be deleted, this is not Facebook.

    Rule 2 – Off-topic discussion
    As this is an area for members to discuss non e-cig related topics, this board will have some relaxation applied to relevance rules.

    Rule 3 – Forum wide
    Do not start threads about other members as these invariably end up turning ugly and create more work for us.

    Rule 4 – Forum wide
    Threads that appear to be in anyway gloating, celebrating or deriving some form of satisfaction from any member's (including vendors, moderators, admins and vendors) misfortune will be deleted and the originator/those involved infracted or banned.

    Linking

    Rule 1
    Links may be deleted at any time for any reason without explanation.

    Rule 2
    You are allowed to include a news article in your thread or post, please include a link to the website it came from, and only use one or two paragraphs from the article.


    Relevance

    We will allow you to go off topic for a counter discussion/argument, however constant spamming of threads or absolute crap posted in attempt to bring down a thread will get you infracted or banned.

    If you start a thread in error you can ask us to delete it if there aren't too many posts added or close it if there have already been quite a few responses.

    Moderators / Infractions / Bans

    The moderators of this forum are always right.

    AVF is not here to provide a forum for anyone to air their grievances about Moderators, deleted or closed threads, or infractions or bans they have received. If you feel you have been hard done by the correct procedure, then take up your case with a Moderator.

    Likewise if you have suggestions that may improve the forum, feel free to discuss with us in private. Threads that criticize or question moderation and running of AVF will no longer be locked, simply deleted and punitive action applied to the originator. Those of you who join in or encourage the thread in any way will also be looked at.

    Moderators will post, they may even troll (where appropriate) or offer discussion/constructive arguments. You can take them to task about their post(s) provided you do not denigrate their modship or ***** about past infractions/bans as part of your argument, unless of course you wish to receive another infraction.

    Remember, Moderators are fun-loving animals too.


    Posting Images

    Posting images is a big part of AVF and when used to make a point or simply to generate a laugh they can be devastatingly effective.

    However, there are limits to everything. As you can imagine, the moderators will automatically apply appropriate infractions against posters who display pornographic, obscene, or offensive images.

    Examples of automatic infractions are: images of Downs syndrome or other obviously intellectually handicapped persons (usually as a form of insult to a fellow poster); pictures of other AVF users; pictures of drug use or associated implements; pictures of poo (faeces, shit - whatever you want to call it) - we dont want to see it - you don't want us to see it either; animals fornicationg, defaecating, urinating etc.; images of personal vibrators, dildos, sex dolls etc....

    We can't list all of the things that are inappropriate, so we say be tasteful. If it's something you would be comfortable showing your grandmother - then it's probably OK.

    Leeching - posting images hosted on vendor's without their permission - is verboten. Please ensure you have the vendor's permission at some stage. If the vendor wishes for the images to be removed, they will.

    Aliases/Vendor Spruiking

    Rule 1 - Aliases
    Under no circumstances are members to use duplicate accounts. We have ways and means of finding out if you do or not, be warned - doing so is at your own risk, and you may find both accounts earning bans. Evading bans is a no-no also. Suck it up, and do the time. If you are permanently banned, you probably deserved it anyway.

    Rule 2 - Vendor Spruiking
    Members that appear to be a plant or attached to a vendor in any way, shape or form are to control the urge to spruik for the vendor. This is up to them to do, and very clear with the conditions attached to becoming an approved vendor.
    Vendors would do well here to stamp this out, or risk losing their approved vendor status or access on this forum. If, as a vendor, you are concerned that a member is putting your status at risk, please report to, or bring it to the attention of the Moderators.

    Given we are trying to maintain a balanced, harmonious and friendly atmosphere here, we will be watching.

    Race / Sexual Preference

    Overtly racist or sexual remarks that are a blatant attempt to defile another member are not acceptable. You will receive a ban for this.

    Please respect every person as an individual poster. Flame wars, blatant disrespect for other members or this forum will see you out of here.

    Scam Sites/Offers

    Yes, we all know that certain sites have operated lure scams (i.e. cheap mods) to get you to buy from them. No links or recommendations to these shall be posted.

    Spam

    Given the nature of this forum, spam is to be expected, but will not be tolerated. Spammers will receive a permanent ban from AVF.

    New Vapers Board

    Within the new vapers board, we encourage veteran vapers to point newbies in the right direction with vendors, however excessive recommendation of a particular vendor by the same member will raise eyebrows and your posts may be deleted. This is primarily a discussion forum and whilst vendors remain a fantastic source of information, it is not here for them to advertise.

    We also encourage new vapers to introduce themselves in the one thread, however feel free to post a thread about a particular issue you may be having.

    Replication of threads

    Rightly so, members can grow tired of answering the same questions. If a thread is deemed to replicate another, it will be merged. Do not take it personally, the board needs to remain clean for all to use.

    Please use the SEARCH function before creating a thread.

    For/Sale Trading Thread

    This board is offered as a way for vapers to offload unwanted mods to other members as a courtesy. There are rules to how this is to run, and any threads that do not follow these will be deleted without exception. Remember, this isn't eBay so please respect this is offered to you for free and as a courtesy.
    Rules/Guidelines for posting in this section are found in the very next post, directly under this one.

    Application of Rules

    Applying these rules is not an exact science and we as moderators will consider context, the history of a poster and the nature of the thread among other things when determining whether the undefinable line has been crossed. We may also just be in a bad mood.

    Long sequences of off topic bickering between posters can be boring for others to read and will be likely deleted with an infraction attached.

    It is impossible for us to read every post in every thread so some posts may slip through unnoticed. If you are offended by a post and believe action should be taken, report the post as this will ensure it is brought to our attention and we can act on it as necessary. If you do report a post don't then respond to it as well as it creates even more work for us and will darken our mood.

    If you are unclear on a rule or it's application please PM a moderator for clarification BEFORE posting.

    Above all else we are all here to have fun, exchange information/ideas and enjoy some good natured banter with other vapers.

    From your friendly AVF Mods.
    Last edited by m0n4g3; 07-01-13 at 05:25 PM.
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    Classifieds Rules


    1) The ONLY thing that should be PM'ed between both parties concerned is personal details and banking/paypal details.
    ALL BIDS OR OFFERS FOR THE ITEM are to be IN THE THREAD and not in a PM
    Zero tolerance .. thread deleted. Temporary ban on reoffending.
    2) Location is MANDATORY within your profile to participate AT ALL in the classifieds.. Zero tolerance, post deleted.
    3) Post count minimum is not currently possible with the forum software, however people ONLY here to snap up a bargain without contributing to AVF in any other way will be politely (or not) told to **** off.
    4) There is no obligation to accept offers from overseas buyers whatsoever, except at sellers discretion. This is an Australian forum after all.
    5) Off topic and non constructive posts in for sale threads are generally frowned upon, unless its relevant. Refrain from posting.
    6) No sales using the PayPal gift option. ALL sales made using PayPal must be via the 'goods' option in PayPal. This provides a level of protection for both buyer and seller. Thread deleted, temporary ban on ignoring this.

    7)Gentle reminder to all
    Trading of a declared nicotine e-liquid is not to be done on forums , if you have a liquid for sale or trade advertise it with a PM for details .
    Any reference to mg WILL be deleted .
    While PM's are a no-no in the classifieds usually , in the case of e-liquid , exceptions are made .
    This is just a measure to ensure the forum is not seen to be encouraging sale or trade of nicotine liquid and protect the owners and mod crew .
    What happens in PM is outside the control of admin
    Last edited by Fatman; 09-07-13 at 07:06 PM.
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    For Sale Rules for unapproved vendors

    We are fairly accommodating but due to previous issues with vendors we ask the following.

    1) Please apply to Jato to be given vendor status.
    2) Ask first and get the nod from a mod/admin BEFORE posting ads.
    3) You will be given allowance to advertise in ONE THREAD per vendor in the Trading Post forum until Jato sorts it out.
    4) Threads will be moderated to keep it on topic
    In order of useful: Provari V2 and V1, vamo, eGo twist, Katana v3, Hex, Orion v2, LavaTube, eGo x 6, VMAX, 510N, Tick V2, Tick V1, noEgo 18650, noEgo 14650 , Indulgence x 2, 905 6v mod, KR808D



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    Nicotine Sites

    Currently two types of site that will have links removed on AVF.

    1) Chinese sellers that sell pure nicotine. Importing pure nic is illegal without a license and very dangerous and endangers postal staff. We do not want to encourage its sale. If you buy from a site whose link you did not find in AVF, be very careful what you have ordered, on at least one site is called 'nicotine eliquid' and one puff would probably kill you.

    2) Australian or NZ vendors ignoring or circumventing the no nicotine sales rule for australia. Due to trade restrictions it is also illegal for NZ sellers to sell to australians.
    Last edited by m0n4g3; 07-01-13 at 05:28 PM.
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    thread unlocked for further discussion. post or comment below on any rule clarifications or discussion.
    In order of useful: Provari V2 and V1, vamo, eGo twist, Katana v3, Hex, Orion v2, LavaTube, eGo x 6, VMAX, 510N, Tick V2, Tick V1, noEgo 18650, noEgo 14650 , Indulgence x 2, 905 6v mod, KR808D



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    Yes... Example i saw last night, rule 3, the member that did the fucking off... Was told not to do the fucking off...? clarification needed to make it crystal clear who may do the said fucking off, politely or not politely.. Lol

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    Personally i like self moderation in fs section, but maybe we need to have a nice word before we get nasty with these newbies that dont know the rules is all...and rely on op to clarify this with the said noob to be fucked off..( again either politely or not politely depending on infraction)

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    good discussion point this is how I see this one.

    I guess theres at least three types of sales,

    one where you have a good device not being used and want to 'spread the love' to another AVF member who you have been chatting with for some time.

    A second type is where the bills all come in at the same time an you just lost your job.
    The second one its probably in the OPs interest to get as much dosh as possible and have a safe transaction.

    A third is things that you have outgrown, a stack of ego batterys or cartos for eg.

    perhaps a seperation between these could be made by the OP in the first post, 'offers only from a member for 6 months plus'
    some sales are more noob orientated like the third. would you inhibit a noob from getting a good starter kit cheap ?

    the major reason that was put in place .. (as requested by long term members) was as much as a warning to low posters as anything else.
    I felt bad for the second bidder last night and did not want to see them drawn over the coals and likely leave AVF for what to them, was a simple bid offer on a device that had not met the buy it now price. I did miss the fact it was 140 inc post and current offer was 130 pick up, possibly so did the second bidder. I posted my opinion, nothing more, that i thought they had done nothing wrong and still stand by that.

    noobs also do things like only read the first post in a thread, hit reply and make an offer missing the current bid, not having read any of the rules yet and this I think needs to be taken into account when telling them to bugger off. It should be done politely at all times unless its a multiple transgressor. then gloves off. but a first time offender .. cut em some slack and point them in the right direction.

    AVF needs noobs to grow, we doubled in size in 2012 and hope to do it again this year. The aim here as always is to bring the world of vaping to as many smokers as possible not provide a premium mod shop for a select few members. If you want that .. fine, but it needs to be done with a modicum of decorum.

    i also see a big difference between a 'pick up' deal and a 'paypal, send it overseas' deal .. to me, someone prepared to do a pick up is not going to be a stranger for long and will probably make a new friend.
    many long term members here have possibly never met a single other vaper, a pick up is possibly a mini vape meet straight off. there is virtually no chance of the seller being ripped off and its less likely the buyer will be as well.

    as a mod, I always try and see stuff from every participants view point and keep the forum lively and as many members happy as possible. this includes low post count people, we where all on our first post once and I would like to see new members hang around.
    In order of useful: Provari V2 and V1, vamo, eGo twist, Katana v3, Hex, Orion v2, LavaTube, eGo x 6, VMAX, 510N, Tick V2, Tick V1, noEgo 18650, noEgo 14650 , Indulgence x 2, 905 6v mod, KR808D



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    I Agree but to stop this happennong some understanding needs to be come to and it made obvious whats ok and whats not ok... Maybe just the manner in which it is approached and who is (the op i suggest or a moderator) or should be jumping on it. I saw old mate prior to the comment had no location listed, i didnt even read the thread in full, so i have no idea all that was written, i just think everyone needs to be on the same page.
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    Now that we have more moderators maybe a new for sale thread should be closed till a moderator checks the seller out and then opens it and gives the seller all clear.

 

 
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