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    Beginner coil build for griffin 25

    Hi I just bought a smok alien mod and a griffin 25 rta and was wondering if someone could suggest an easy build for a noob. I am interested in temp control for flavour and because it seems more forgiving on wicks.

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    Just a straight spaced coil, stainless steel (so both TC and VW) and cotton wicks.

    What wire/tools/wick do you have at the moment?

    PBusardo is getting pretty good at making these (for a hamfisted Italian who always claims to be terrible at building). I'll see if I can find one of his videos for you.
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    Pbusardo video, show and tell with the Coilmaster V3:
    https://youtu.be/PX_MEm72Xkg?t=227

    Same video, making a spaced nickel coil:
    https://youtu.be/PX_MEm72Xkg?t=2375

    You'll be using stainless steel, I suggest 26g, so you'll need about 5 to 7 wraps for under or around 1 ohm.
    this example from steam-engine.com:

    26g 316 wire
    2.5mm ID
    7 wraps will gives about 0.7 ohms.

    Play with steam engine until you get what you need, then build that:
    Coil wrapping | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

    ETA: in my opinion Phil doesn't use enough wick. It's easier to get the wick through the coil if you use less, but it shouldn't be that easy. Stainless steel is more robust than nickel, so you should be able to pull almost twice that amount of wick through.
    Last edited by fabricator4; 08-11-16 at 09:54 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fabricator4 View Post
    Just a straight spaced coil, stainless steel (so both TC and VW) and cotton wicks.

    What wire/tools/wick do you have at the moment?

    PBusardo is getting pretty good at making these (for a hamfisted Italian who always claims to be terrible at building). I'll see if I can find one of his videos for you.
    I have cotton bacon
    Quote Originally Posted by fabricator4 View Post
    Pbusardo video, show and tell with the Coilmaster V3:
    https://youtu.be/PX_MEm72Xkg?t=227

    Same video, making a spaced nickel coil:
    https://youtu.be/PX_MEm72Xkg?t=2375

    You'll be using stainless steel, I suggest 26g, so you'll need about 5 to 7 wraps for under or around 1 ohm.
    this example from steam-engine.com:

    26g 316 wire
    2.5mm ID
    7 wraps will gives about 0.7 ohms.

    Play with steam engine until you get what you need, then build that:
    Coil wrapping | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabricator4 View Post
    Pbusardo video, show and tell with the Coilmaster V3:
    https://youtu.be/PX_MEm72Xkg?t=227

    Same video, making a spaced nickel coil:
    https://youtu.be/PX_MEm72Xkg?t=2375

    You'll be using stainless steel, I suggest 26g, so you'll need about 5 to 7 wraps for under or around 1 ohm.
    this example from steam-engine.com:

    26g 316 wire
    2.5mm ID
    7 wraps will gives about 0.7 ohms.

    Play with steam engine until you get what you need, then build that:
    Coil wrapping | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

    ETA: in my opinion Phil doesn't use enough wick. It's easier to get the wick through the coil if you use less, but it shouldn't be that easy. Stainless steel is more robust than nickel, so you should be able to pull almost twice that amount of wick through.
    What temperature would you suggest?
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    I have cotton bacon



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    Quote Originally Posted by martybaker View Post
    What temperature would you suggest?
    180C to 220C normally works well, but you adjust to taste.

    Most mods seem to do SS a little weird (too hot) and I think it's because of the TCR value they use. If you can set a custom TCR value on your mod, I suggest using a TCR value of 93. This might give you just a little vapour at 180C, and lots at 220C. As the coil gunks up you may need to increase it slightly.

    Always start low and work up to where you are happy with it.
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    I've been trying to acheive some descent flavour for some time, is temperature control and rebuiladables what got you there?

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    I would add if youre going to use temp control, start off at about 170c/340f and increase to taste, dont fall into the trap of thinking higher temp = better vape because thats not always true, by starting out high you may just miss your sweet spot (and get a mouth full of dragons breath - temp control wont stop that - if you set it badly it will give you what youve badly set), and that sweet spot can change due to the juice youre using - some flavors taste better at different temps (or wattages). I think too many people do this, subscibing to the (unfortunate) belief in vaping that more of something = better, hate the vape and call tc a waste of time.

    I only get near/above 200c when its the dead of winter in the minuses in the mountains

    edit: i see youve been busy and quicker at typing, and beat me to it Fab
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    Quote Originally Posted by stylemessiah View Post
    I would add if youre going to use temp control, start off at about 170c/340f and increase to taste, dont fall into the trap of thinking higher temp = better vape because thats not always true, by starting out high you may just miss your sweet spot (and get a mouth full of dragons breath - temp control wont stop that - if you set it badly it will give you what youve badly set), and that sweet spot can change due to the juice youre using - some flavors taste better at different temps (or wattages). I think too many people do this, subscibing to the (unfortunate) believe in vaping that more of something = better, hate the vape and call tc a waste of time.

    I only get near/above 200c when its the dead of winter in the minuses in the mountains

    edit: i see youve been busy and quicker at typing, and beat me to it Fab
    I really do live a simple life.
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    I don't usually go below 530f. I don't find it hot at all.

 

 
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