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    Question Squonk Atty Draining

    Afternoon all

    Something that I often wonder about ... squonk atties that have had the deck designed such that the majority of the juice drains back into the bottle are widely touted as a good thing. This is usually achieved by having the positive (squonk) pin end either at the level of the deck, or slightly below it and having the deck tapered to direct the juice to the squonk hole (so no juice well as such). But why is this so?

    I would have thought that a small amount of juice in the well would help maintain a saturated wick, allowing a more dense "cloud". Additionally, this would provide some surge capacity so that the frequency of squonking can be reduced. I have seen it said that having the deck drain completely reduces any backwash to the bottle, but I fail to see how (insert man shrug here).

    Could someone please enlighten me
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    If they don't drain you have to keep them upright so juice wont run up the tank to the drip tip, I had one tank that was constantly doing that even if I bent over with the mod in my top pocket.
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    good question lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by mallee00 View Post
    If they don't drain you have to keep them upright so juice wont run up the tank to the drip tip, I had one tank that was constantly doing that even if I bent over with the mod in my top pocket.



    But that's a different issue to the pro's of a completely drained deck
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    I think the argument is mainly related to having fresh juice as juice that sits in the well can be cooked somewhat by the heat even if it is not in contact with the coil, then there's the thought it will get back washed and mixed back in with the fresh juice in the bottle as you mentioned. That and what mallee said being able to have something tilted or laying down without juice leaking out which is a valid concern for a lot of people. Personally a bit of juice left in the well doesn't usually worry me as long as it isn't making things all slurpy or spitty which can happen if juice is built up close to the airholes or the coil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gtadmin View Post



    But that's a different issue to the pro's of a completely drained deck
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    I would have thought that having juice not captured in the wicking material drain back into the bottle and not running down the side of a tank when its not upright a good thing. I pack the wells in my squonk attys full of cotton with just a small gap around the squonk hole so it will drain and believe me I really soak them, works for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mallee00 View Post
    tank
    banned from squonking

    off with his head
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    Backwash is such a dirty word, I can't see how a completely draining atty could reduce any backwash either.
    A well is a better idea and a tightly packed wick for maximum fluid retention, just need to make sure you keep it upright so it doesn't leak. Over squonking is a pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtadmin View Post



    But that's a different issue to the pro's of a completely drained deck
    True, and whether an RDA with free liquid in it likely to leak depends a lot on the design. For example it's very hard to get the NarDA to leak even if it's quite flooded. you have to fill it with liquid half way up to the coil, and then lay it right over on it's side.

    One thing that can happen with some types of cotton, if the ends of the wick are sitting in liquid there's a chance it will super saturate and start spitting when you start using it again. A deck that drains fully would eliminate that problem (or use Rayon LOL).

    I'm willing to concede that "you don't know until you've tried an SV dished atty", but I still like my NarDA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mallee00 View Post
    [/I]

    I would have thought that having juice not captured in the wicking material drain back into the bottle and not running down the side of a tank when its not upright a good thing. I pack the wells in my squonk attys full of cotton with just a small gap around the squonk hole so it will drain and believe me I really soak them, works for me.
    Yes, of course but that's still a different issue to what I'm trying to flesh out. For instance, if you choose a design where the liquid can't flow out of the air holes then you won't have an issue irrespective of whether the deck is completely drained or mostly drained.

    The issue that JB mentioned (heated juice in the well) has some merit for those who vape high watts & high VG ... but I've been experimenting with very low VG% (10%), I rarely build below 1ohm single coil and almost always use a single battery mech (or pseudo mech) mod ... and it's all about ME
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