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    The Effects of Smoking Prohibition

    Illicit tobacco funding gangs and increasing use | News.com.au

    With continual and increasingly harsh rises in tobacco taxes, we are now beginning to see the effect of what is a de-facto prohibition of tobacco. Smokers will only be pushed so far. We know from history, from America's catastrophic experiment with alcohol prohibition in the 20's and 30's, how this will end up, and it will not be pretty.

    Australia is the first country to try a soft prohibition of tobacco, through taxation, and we are just beginning to see a disaster unfold.

    Smokers are now beginning to revolt with their pockets. Many would continue to pay taxes to a certain point, many would try and stay with legal tobacco, but when it is eating so hard into the weekly budget, illegal tobacco becomes more and more attractive.

    It starts to cascade. A smoker makes one illegal tobacco purchase, finds it's not so bad, not so hard, and a hell of a lot cheaper. They will go back again and again for the same. After all, we're getting to the levels now where tobacco is costing as much as illegal drugs.

    They tell their smoking friends. Why be a fool, a tool, when chop chop can be had for far less cost? So it spirals out of control.

    The new Al Capones of bootleg cigarettes are starting to make their big profits now. More money for the ciggy gangs, more money to buy guns and perhaps diversify into other prohibited drugs. When will we see this spiral into "cig wars"?

    Chappers is twitting a frenzy at the moment. I think a part of him knows the disaster he has started, and this is just the beginning. But when a totally independent and unbiased group like KPMG release this damning report discussed in the linked news article, it is very hard to ignore or deny it.

    This could so easily have been avoided if we liberalised vaping and snus and snuff instead. Carrots rather than sticks. Sweden, not Siberia.

    Indeed, as the news article shows, tobacco consumption is now INCREASING despite all the taxes and warnings and gruesome pics and plain packets. It's the end of the prohibition experiment. It has failed. It failed with alcohol, it has failed with tobacco.

    Chappers has blood on his hands.

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    "But - based on the survey - smokers have been driven to purchase illicit tobacco products, none of which displays the mandatory health warnings."


    ROFL!!!!!! I cant think why there would be no warnings on chop chop... dammed illegal people not stressing on health codes
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    illegal tobacco seesh..............now where did I put that damn ganja
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke916 View Post
    illegal tobacco seesh..............now where did I put that damn ganja
    Well it's getting so it costs less than legal tobacco now isn't it!
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    haha..you can tell he's panicking a bit. Soon people will grow hydroponic tobacco instead of p0t because its easier to sell and makes more profit. Money grabbing, opportunistic gummunt are in on the game.

    You are right VOG, Shatman had blood on his hands helping to stop snus.
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    I'm not in favour of banning cigarettes but any study commissioned by big tobacco and published "exclusively" in a News Corp tabloid I would take with a boulder of salt.

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    Big T may have paid for it but it is all over the web, including Bloomberg, and it would not do KPMG any good to their reputation to publish a study based on lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vapes of Groth View Post
    Well it's getting so it costs less than legal tobacco now isn't it!
    Depends how many watts you're running.

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    His plain packs just aren't working, and he's an international embarrassment amongst his peers, so he'd prefer to divert attention with this ...... A Victory ...

    On pets, smoking and timber floors, Mr Roberts said that although owners can choose their own bylaws, many unit blocks adopt the government's model by-laws by default and it's only after people move in that they find they don't reflect the way they want to live. However, once they are in place, they are very hard to change.

    He tweeted this an hour ago, as he feels it's some sort of victory.

    He is a sad man.


    http://smh.domain.com.au/real-estate...103-2wuy4.html

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    No disrespect Vapes, but I've got no time for anything that comes from big tobacco.
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