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Thread: Money from Tobacco Settlement used to ban ecigs

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    Money from Tobacco Settlement used to ban ecigs

    Money gained from settlements against the tobacco industry are now being used to ban ecigs.

    ..... They are concerned about e-cigarettes being included in tobacco laws, because many claim the vapor devices helped them quit smoking.

    But the grants, which are $100,000 or more for cities the size of Shawnee and Ada, are very attractive. The money can be used for any health-related project. Past uses have included walking trails, basketball courts, sidewalks, community gardens and skate parks.

    The grants are offered by the Oklahoma Tobacco Settlement Endowment Trust, which uses the earnings on invested payments from a settlement against the tobacco industry to fund a variety of health-related programs. Amounts of the healthy community grants were increased considerably for 2014, the program's third year.
    Oklahoma communities ban e-cigarettes with grant money in mind | News OK

    The irony............... it burns.
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    Another case of "show me the money" dressed up as "public health". Disgusting.
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    From that article,an interesting read not sure if this has been shown here before so sorry if it has..

    http://publichealth.drexel.edu/~/med...ealth/ms08.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olfella View Post
    From that article,an interesting read not sure if this has been shown here before so sorry if it has..

    http://publichealth.drexel.edu/~/med...ealth/ms08.pdf
    Nice find

    Key Conclusions:
     Even when compared to workplace standards for involuntary exposures, and using several conservative (erring on the side of caution) assumptions, the exposures from using e-cigarettes fall well below the threshold for concern for compounds with known toxicity. That is, even ignoring the benefits of e-cigarette use and the fact that the exposure is actively chosen, and even comparing to the levels that are considered unacceptable to people who are not benefiting from the exposure and do not want it, the exposures would not generate concern or call for remedial action.
     Expressed concerns about nicotine only apply to vapers who do not wish to consume it; a voluntary (indeed, intentional) exposure is very different from a contaminant.
     There is no serious concern about the contaminants such as volatile organic compounds (formaldehyde, acrolein, etc.) in the liquid or produced by heating. While these contaminants are present, they have been detected at problematic levels only in a few studies that apparently were based on unrealistic levels of heating.
     The frequently stated concern about contamination of the liquid by a nontrivial quantity of ethylene glycol or diethylene glycol remains based on a single sample of an early technology product (and even this did not rise to the level of health concern) and has not been replicated.
     Tobacco-specific nitrosamines (TSNA) are present in trace quantities and pose no more (likely much less) threat to health than TSNAs from modern smokeless tobacco products, which cause no measurable risk for cancer.
     Contamination by metals is shown to be at similarly trivial levels that pose no health risk, and the alarmist claims
    about such contamination are based on unrealistic assumptions about the molecular form of these elements.
     The existing literature tends to overestimate the exposures and exaggerate their implications. This is partially
    due to rhetoric, but also results from technical features. The most important is confusion of the concentration in aerosol, which on its own tells us little about risk to heath, with the relevant and much smaller total exposure to compounds in the aerosol averaged across all air inhaled in the course of a day. There is also clear bias in previous reports in favor of isolated instances of highest level of chemical detected across multiple studies, such that average exposure that can be calculated are higher than true value because they are “missing” all true zeros.
     Routine monitoring of liquid chemistry is easier and cheaper than assessment of aerosols. Combined with an understanding of how the chemistry of the liquid affects the chemistry of the aerosol and insights into behavior of vapers, this can serve as a useful tool to ensure the safety of e-cigarettes.
     The only unintentional exposures (i.e., not the nicotine) that seem to rise to the level that they are worth further research are the carrier chemicals themselves, propylene glycol and glycerin. This exposure is not known to cause health problems, but the magnitude of the exposure is novel and thus is at the levels for concern based on the lack of reassuring data.
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    This one was also linked in the comments section.

    A fresh look at tobacco harm reduction: the case for the electronic cigarette

    A quote from it

    "The dream of a tobacco-free, nicotine-free world is just that—a dream. Nicotine’s beneficial effects include correcting problems with concentration, attention and memory, as well as improving symptoms of mood impairments. Keeping such disabilities at bay right now can be much stronger motivation to continue using nicotine than any threats of diseases that may strike years and years in the future."
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    On Australian News 24 they just had a story on a bat epidemic in an Australian town. Guess how the Government is trying to get rid of the bats. You've got it if you said "big humungous smoke machines" letting off massive plooms of Vapour in the Public Parks, Squares and Streets of this town.

    edit. I forgot to mention all the little children were there watching.
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    Very interesting overview you linked there, Olfella. Especially the last point

    The only unintentional exposures (i.e., not the nicotine) that seem to rise to the level that they are worth further
    research are the carrier chemicals themselves, propylene glycol and glycerin. This exposure is not known to
    cause health problems, but the magnitude of the exposure is novel and thus is at the levels for concern based on
    the lack of reassuring data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsgruffy View Post
    Very interesting overview you linked there, Olfella. Especially the last point
    As I've always said, I don't mind paying taxes, as long as that tax money goes towards vapour scientific/medical research.

    So many other things need researching too - wicking, coils, tank plastics, flavourings, additives.

    I wish the Government s would stop wasting time of deciding whether to allow the market to continues, and get onto improving this technology to make it even safer and effective.

    It doesn't need medicinal regulation. It just needs quality and safety control.

 

 

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