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Thread: What’s the evidence for banning electronic cigarettes? Questions sent to the BMA

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    What’s the evidence for banning electronic cigarettes? Questions sent to the BMA

    Found this link while watching VTTV

    Will be interesting to see if they get a reply


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    "We asked the BMA why they want them banned in public. - See more at: http://www.senseaboutscience.org/news.php/364/whats-the-evidence-for-banning-electronic-cigarettes#sthash.lvktBLhl.dpuf"

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    "From your briefing note (pdf), I would appreciate an explanation of the following points:

    The briefing says that there isn't enough evidence about the safety and efficacy of e-cigarettes, but cites studies that conclude that e-cigarettes “are a safer alternative to tobacco cigarettes” and that “e-cigarette use has substituted for use of licensed nicotine products rather than growing the market.” Professor Peter Hajek writes in Lancet Respiratory, “more dangerous chemicals such as bleach rely on packaging and common sense rather than on medicinal licensing.” Your conclusion that they should be banned in public and regulated as medicines appears to be in opposition to this. Why?
    Since your briefing was published, an RCT by Bullen et al concluded that “E-cigarettes, with or without nicotine, were modestly effective at helping smokers to quit, with similar achievement of abstinence as with nicotine patches, and few adverse events.” There's also a Cochrane review imminent. Are you planning to consider and revise your campaign in light of these?
    The claim about 'passive vaping' needs clarifying as the potentially dangerous compounds found in e-cigarettes are present in concentrations orders of magnitude lower than in conventional tobacco, so much so that there is "no apparent risk to human health from e-cigarette emissions based on the compounds analyzed” according to McAuley et al.
    I couldn't find any evidence to back up your claims about “reinforcing the normalcy of smoking behaviour," or e-cigarettes being attractive to children or being a gateway to conventional smoking. Is this a hunch?
    Best regards,

    Prateek Buch

    Director, Public Policy Unit
    Sense About Science"

    Co-Chairs of the Public Health Medicine Committee"
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    it seems to me that the arguements being used against ecigs is like opponents digging themselves deeper into a hole. As someone said on another thread here, if france feels that ecigs are tobacco products and should only be sold by tobacconists, then so should nic patches. if ejuice is so dangerous to children drinking it, then what about the gazillion other products out there in households today that are legal. there is no logical arguement they can make that cant be picked apart quite easily
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    We all know why they would prefer that e-cigs were eliminated from society. The reasons they officially put forward are actually not reasons at all. They're excuses.

    They want e-cigs gone because it looks like smoking. Every thing else they say is a red herring, especially SC's rubbish that nicotine is harmful. They fear that the exhaling of what looks like smoke from one's mouth will re-normalise tobacco smoking.

    But if you look beyond what they're saying at face value, you'll see that even that excuse is merely an arrogant proposition, and those willing to buy into it are just lazy parents who would prefer to place the responsibility of child rearing on the State. It holds the same value as the arguments put forward by those people who think that open homosexuals will corrupt society.


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    This looks like smoking too LOL ( pinched from EUEcigban twitter)

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    Lets start labeling anti-ecig people.


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