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    The latest from Clive Bates

    Info post: political agreement on e-cigarette text « The counterfactual

    The 10ml container limit might explain why Contact a moderator! have launched the site with 10ml bottles only. Imagine the cost increase when you can only purchase 10ml bottles, max 20mg/ml nic. It really has been written for cigalikes and the refillable s tacked on as a concession to get it through.
    Also the Brit's seem worried about the 2ml tank limit. Some think it is written only for disposables and others think it is even a limit for refillables.
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    Surprise Surprise, Frederique Ries (MEP European Parliament and ecigs advocate) announced on her Facebook page that 3 of the 6 so called independent experts to the European Council Superior had undeclared conflicts of interest. Two of them to Pharma and one to Tobacco. The translation is from Google translate but and it comes from this.

    Marianne Belgique: Cigarette électronique: des experts en plein conflit d’intérêts?

    "Two of the six experts who signed the recent opinion of the Supreme Council of reluctant to e-cigarette health were paid by pharmaceutical companies that market nicotine substitutes , such Chantix or Nicorette or lucrative drugs against lung cancer . A third expert is a former consultant to Philip Morris.

    The opinion of the Supreme Council of Health ( CSS ), published Dec. 11 , is hardly tender with e- cigarette: it emits a " reluctance " to his " general availability ". The " vapoteurs " immediately cried foul , seeing behind this review hand Big Pharma and Big Tobacco. Paranoid fantasies ?

    Janssen , Pfizer, Eli Lilly ...

    Not sure two of the six experts who signed this notice has been recent links with the pharmaceutical industry , according to their declarations of interests consulted by Marianne (see documents below) . Dr. Vincent Lustygier , deputy chief of clinical psychiatry and medical psychology at CHU Brugmann, said he was " punctual speaker " paid to Janssen ( 2011 ) and Eli Lilly ( 2010 and 2011 ) . Janssen famous gold markets Nicorette , a range of nicotine replacement , and Eli Lilly sells drugs to treat lung cancer that are " 50 times more generating revenue that drug aid against smoking " according to a French consultant in tobacco . Therefore neither Janssen nor Eli Lilly has objectively interest that the electronic cigarette is becoming widespread.

    Other cases, more challenging , as Dr. Kristiaan Nackaerts , pulmonologist at the KU Leuven . Since 2006, he is paid by Pfizer Varenicline consultant, the active ingredient in Champix - the most expensive substitutes in the treatment of smoking. In 2008-2009, he oversaw an observational study funded by Pfizer product and , between 2010 and 2012 , he coordinated a clinical study of this drug , also sponsored by Pfizer. Dr. Nackaerts has also coordinated from 2006 to 2008, a study sponsored by Sanofi -Aventis on another nicotine substitute : the dianicline . He also tested drugs against lung cancer on behalf of giant Eli Lilly three clinical studies since 2006.

    " No potential conflict of interest"

    Despite these links, Dr Nackaerts and Lustygier feel like CSS, they have no interest to declare. "The record , according to our expert evaluation working group, showed no potential conflict of interest ," says Sandrine Everaert , Quality Manager at CSS. A conclusion rather surprising given the links that these two experts have forged with the pharmaceutical industry in recent years .

    Finally , past a third expert, Michel Fade , a Unilever specialist additives and associated with the ULB former employee also challenges . Before he got his hands on this market , tobacco does not have an interest in the e-cigarette proliferates every new vapoteur is a client less for them. But between 1984 and 1988 , Michel Fade conducted confidentially , legislative watch for Philip Morris , which funded the research center. Monitoring work considered by the cigarette as " vital to the financial success of the company," according to an internal document. This ongoing relationship with Philip Morris did not prevent the expert to serve on the Supreme Council of Health since 1977 without interruption ...

    David Leloup"
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    Have there been any further exposé of these details?
    If accurate, such "conflicts of interest" undeclared or otherwise, could and should be considered as grounds to have the proposal annulled before the commission has the audacity to present it to the European Parliament.
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    Hard to tell with the translation, but it sounds like these two 'were' or 'formerly' affiliated with BT/BP?

    If so, they can legally say they don't have any conflict of interest now.

    Still as dodgy as...but we have all come to expect this sh*t as par for the course these days.

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    Hard to tell with the translation, but it sounds like these two 'were' or 'formerly' affiliated with BT/BP?
    Then the integrity of the commission has been compromised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AstroBoy View Post
    Then the integrity of the commission has been compromised.
    We have to hold the pro-ecig people to the same account though. So people like Dr Farsalino who vapes himself, and anyone else who has any connection to e-cig businesses could not convincingly advocate on their behalf.

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    We have to hold the pro-ecig people to the same account though. So people like Dr Farsalino who vapes himself, and anyone else who has any connection to e-cig businesses could not convincingly advocate on their behalf.
    I was referring specifically to the 'committee' involved in formulating the proposal, not to advocates of various opinions.
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