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    EU meeting with ECITA and TVECA Minutes

    http://ec.europa.eu/health/tobacco/d...1122_mi_en.pdf

    One paragraph is really interesting and is contrary to what happens in Australia by all accounts.

    "ECITA indicated that the market share of “home
    blending”, i.e., consumers mixing their own solutions and flavours in their own homes, is
    limited (less than 5% of the market) and that it is impossible to control what people do in their
    own home. ECITA also pointed out that acting against refillable units would lead to more
    home blending of liquids and an unregulated black market."
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    If ready to vape eliquid with nicotine, was allowed to be sold in Australia, the percentage of people mixing their own eliquids would probably be about the same as it is in the EU. The fact that we have to either import ready to vape liquids from os, or nicotine base liquid, means that we pay well over the odds for our eliquid compared to people in countries where nicotine eliquid is readily available. We also lack the ability to "try before we buy" as people are able to do in other countries, because of a lack of B and M stores, and because of the illegality of selling eliquid with nicotine.

    Aussie vendors would leap at the chance to sell ready to vape nicotine eliquids, and already the vast majority of good Aussie vendors already have the childproof bottles, and good labelling, even though they cannot sell juice containing nicotine, so if they ever do get this ability, they are well placed to start selling straight away. Even better if we were able to walk into a supermarket, or a vape store, and buy our juice. We would probably see many people, (that aren't hobbyist DIYers), buy their eliquid in this way. It would also make it a lot easier for people to make the switch to vaping, as at the moment many people think that having to import nicotine eliquid is too inconvenient, compared to just being able to buy a packet of smokes at the local shop.

    This is why the misinformation about nicotine eliquid, and its position in regards to the law, is such a problem in this country. Many people who would make the switch, don't want to end up being fined or worse, so they keep smoking, (This is something I have personally heard from smokers I know who were initially interested in switching). The cynic in me says this is exactly what the government want people to do, as well as the other vested interest groups, BT and BP.
    All opinions expressed by me, are my own, I do not represent, or speak for, anyone but myself.






    STOPPED SMOKING 11/08/13 STARTED VAPING 11/08/13

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    Quote Originally Posted by spud View Post
    if we were able to walk into a supermarket, or a vape store, and buy our juice...
    Now wouldn't that be something? Bread, cereal, shampoo and juice into the trolly and off to the checkout!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveJ View Post
    Now wouldn't that be something? Bread, cereal, shampoo and juice into the trolly and off to the checkout!
    I disagree.

    I think ejuice should be purchased from here (outside):



    and not from here (medicines isle (inside)):



    Afterall, ecigs are (should) be competing with tobacco cigarettes, not Quickmist and Nicabate gum.

    But I get your point. It would be awesome.
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    Thanks for posting Donna.
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    What happened to ginzy ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mavinry4 View Post
    I disagree.

    I think ejuice should be purchased from here (outside):



    and not from here (medicines isle (inside)):



    Afterall, ecigs are (should) be competing with tobacco cigarettes, not Quickmist and Nicabate gum.

    But I get your point. It would be awesome.
    Well, I see your point, and I agree, the juices ought NOT be with the medicines, nor with the NRT. I suggest they ought be near the tea/coffee stuff. You know, all the stuff to go with breaky toast in one place.

    BUT, really, anywhere in the supermarket for premixed would be bloody brilliant, and a monster improvement on what we have now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveJ View Post
    Well, I see your point, and I agree, the juices ought NOT be with the medicines, nor with the NRT. I suggest they ought be near the tea/coffee stuff. You know, all the stuff to go with breaky toast in one place.

    BUT, really, anywhere in the supermarket for premixed would be bloody brilliant, and a monster improvement on what we have now.

    Dave
    Tea and Coffee section! Brilliant.

    Personally, I'd always go to a specialist vape shop for my vaping needs. But for my family's sake, I'd love for premixed ejuices to be available at Coles and Woolies.

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    I personally would like it sold as we buy our no nic juice now from vendors we trust at least we know it's clean.
    I don't trust a cook that won't eat their own food,therefore I would not trust Coles or Woolies etc to source 'safe'juice
    They would prob get from China anyway..
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    Quote Originally Posted by mavinry4 View Post
    Tea and Coffee section! Brilliant.

    Personally, I'd always go to a specialist vape shop for my vaping needs. But for my family's sake, I'd love for premixed ejuices to be available at Coles and Woolies.
    Yeah, I think I would too. Unless Coles used their head and actually stocked "JW" and other proper authentic Oz juice products.

    I use to buy my coffee beans from Coles long ago (anyone remember when they had a proper selection, and grinders in the aisle?), but since they reduced their selection and replaced my favorites with their "home" brand, I now go to specialised coffee shops to buy my beans. I see no reason to think differently about how I'd buy my juice.

    But, oh for the time we could actually be offered that choice for juice..
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