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    Quit dot org 5 things

    Sigh..............

    5 things you should know about e-cigarettes - Quit Victoria




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    Where are they getting this information from? I follow loads of different science heads both pro and anti ecigarettes, and I'm not seeing any research which backs up those findings apart from some really dated pre 2010 stuff which has been debunked or there has been updated research performed with far more positive results since. Are there some secret science information portals that laymen can't access? You would think they would verify this sort of rubbish before they publish it, surely??

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    Is there a link to; 5 things you should know about 'Quit' (and the cancer council)
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    I suggest we write our stories: Submit your story - Quit Victoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsgruffy View Post
    Where are they getting this information from? I follow loads of different science heads both pro and anti ecigarettes, and I'm not seeing any research which backs up those findings apart from some really dated pre 2010 stuff which has been debunked or there has been updated research performed with far more positive results since. Are there some secret science information portals that laymen can't access? You would think they would verify this sort of rubbish before they publish it, surely??
    It is selective marketing / engineering - get the sheeple to adapt to a way of thinking to normalise the thought process & emotions - bare "facts" are needed but the right emotive language used to get people that aren't in the know onto their side... Political parties (amongst others) have been using this technique for many years
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    They should be criminally prosecuted the next time someone kills themselves from Champix.
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    From the article;

    There are plenty of other proven and safe methods to quit
    There are many quitting methods which are not only proven to increase long-term quitting rates but are also regulated and safe to use, including nicotine patches and stop-smoking medications such as Champix or Zyban. These products are subsidised via the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme and can be accessed through your doctor or pharmacist.

    From another article, the facts;

    In the last five years, 544 suicides and 1,869 attempted suicides have been reported to the FDA as “adverse events” in connection with Chantix, according to documents obtained by America Tonight under the Freedom of Information Act.

    Adverse events are side effects reported to the FDA by patients, doctors or health professionals, or the drug makers themselves. The reports don’t prove cause and effect but serve as an early warning system of sorts for the FDA, which monitors federal drug safety.

    Side effects ‘off the charts'

    In 2008, Thomas J. Moore, senior researcher with the Institute for Safe Medication Practices, was testing new software to analyze adverse events when he made a startling discovery.

    “Here, basically going off the charts, was this new smoking-cessation drug called Chantix,” Moore said.

    Moore found that Chantix was responsible for more adverse events – including the type of serious psychiatric episodes such as Hurst’s – than any other drug on the market. They fell into four categories: suicidal behaviors, depression, psychosis and aggression.

    “There were side effects that made it look like it was unsafe for pilots and people in critical occupations because there were seizures, blackouts, temporary blindness, blurry vision,” he said.

    Based on Moore’s research, the Institute for Safe Medication Practices issued a report saying the group had “immediate safety concerns” about Chantix “among persons operating aircraft, trains, buses and other vehicles.”

    The Federal Aviation Administration and Defense Department took heed and banned Chantix use among pilots and air traffic controllers. The military also banned Chantix for missile crews.

    The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration, the federal agency that governs truckers, said Chantix may “adversely affect the driver’s ability to safely operate a motor vehicle.” And the Department of Transportation sent a memo to the Federal Railroad Administration warning of “the potential threat to public safety caused by the anti-smoking drug Chantix.”

    In July 2009, the FDA slapped a so-called black-box warning on Chantix – the most serious warning possible – saying the drug “has been associated with reports of changes in behavior such as hostility, agitation, depressed mood, and suicidal thoughts or actions.”

    Prospects for violence?

    Moore continued digging into adverse event reports, particularly those involving violence. He co-authored a 2010 study in the Annals of Pharmacotherapy analyzing 26 acts of violence reported to the FDA as adverse events associated with Chantix. The study called them “inexplicable and unprovoked": “A woman struck her 17-year-old daughter in the mouth while the daughter was driving a car…A 42-year-old man punched a stranger at a bowling alley…A 24-year-old started beating her boyfriend in bed because ‘he looked so peaceful’ and she later attempted suicide.”

    “These cases had three striking characteristics,” Moore said in an interview at his Alexandria, Va., office. “First, the violence was absolutely unpredictable and senseless. Second, the victim was anybody who happened to be nearby. It could have been a fiancÚ. It could have been mother. It could have been a police officer. And third, these people had no history of violence and were unlikely prospects for a violent act.”


    The full article here;

    FDA: Anti-smoking drug Chantix linked to more than 500 suicides | Al Jazeera America

    Quitline is not an impartial organisation, no matter how much they try to convince otherwise
    They advertise for pharmaceutical companies and promote their products
    Wonder why that is eh?

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    While e-cigarettes are almost certainly less harmful than smoking,...
    We are still going to scare the shit out of you with a load unfounded rubbish while real cigarettes are readily available and perfectly legal. No prescription necessary.

    Where's the sanity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sponky View Post
    I suggest we write our stories: Submit your story - Quit Victoria
    Have done. Publication unlikely?

 

 

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