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    MUST SEE video - Peter Hajek on Electronic cigarettes

    A really good talk. At about 18:00 Peter Hajek begins to go into the subject on why some Public Health advocates are against e-cigs. He even exposes S.Chpman for his biases.



    From Clive Bate's blog;

    Brilliant!! No doubt in my mind – the best speech of the Global Forum on Nicotine conference by far. Professor Peter Hajek uses the conference keynote, the Michael Russell oration, to explain through the work of Michael Russell (1932-2009) and his protégés the case for tobacco harm reduction. He then tears into the zombie arguments (18′ 48 sec), ideology (22′ 38sec) and motivations (23′ 18sec) of the ‘tobacco control’ activists who oppose e-cigarettes, often for moral reasons (24’00 on), drawing the brutal conclusion that for them “evidence is just a tool to gain converts”. I really liked the lines about all the concerns of the tobacco control establishment do not matter unless they increase cigarette sales (27′ 14 sec). As he puts it: “Are you saying that if you allow e-cigarettes on the market it will somehow increase smoking?” – that’s the question that matters. Mike Russell was a very smart guy with real rigour and edge, matched by a compassion for people and the risks they faced: he would have been very proud of Peter Hajek’s tribute.
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    Peter Hajek describes S.C in just two slides.

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    yes.. brilliant. i like this guy. more people, organisations and governments should listen to this and do more for the vaping cause.
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    The guy is pretty focused on what matters in the end. If tobacco consumption decreases despite the presence of e-cigarettes, especially in the "wild west" like the US and UK, then there is no justification to restrict their availability.

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    I've been watching it from the beginning and got to about the 19min mark.
    the quote above sums it up better than what I was going to put together.
    From the 19min mark:


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    They're trying to stall the market.

    1. Long enough to Squeeze more tax out of the remaining smokers,
    2. Long enough for nicorette Quickmist and Pfizer Champix to make a profit from their still patented and premium priced stop smoking products.
    3. Long enough so they can turn around and say "look, its decreasing with higher taxes and plain packs, we don't need e-cigarettes". They're going to have to massage their stats better than what they just recently did, as Chris Snowden shows that S.C's celebrations were just dogs barking over BS.
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    Chappy should watch this, it's pretty much about him lol.

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    I hope Chapman does see it and hears a room of people laugh at the crap he spews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marty View Post
    They're trying to stall the market.

    2. Long enough for nicorette Quickmist and Pfizer Champix to make a profit from their still patented and premium priced stop smoking products.
    Pfizer have recently paid out over 300M to the families of victims of Champix from suicide
    That is roughly half their annual sales value
    Yet quit org will tell you ecigs are dangerous and there are safer options like gum, patches and Champix!
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