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Thread: Dr Karl examines the dangers of roll your own compared to tailor made cigarettes

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    Dr Karl examines the dangers of roll your own compared to tailor made cigarettes

    I know we're vapers, but I just found this so gosh darned interesting, I thought I'd share. I had no idea. Most people who roll their own think they're taking less risks than someone who's smoking tailor mades, I thought.

    Cigarettes: roll your own vs factory-made Dr Karl's Great Moments In Science (ABC Science)
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    im not surprised, and i know many people (some now vapers) who stubbornly insisted that rolles are far less harmful then tailor mades.. (i'm totally sending this article to them)
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    interesting. i started smoking rollies for the financial savings but kept smoking them cos i preferred the taste and thought they were less harmful. i never thought they were "cooler" and always felt a little self-conscious that they showed me to be a pauper. even if i'd read this article when i was smoking, i would not have switched to tailor mades, cos i simply couldn't have afforded it.
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    "But some of the other additives include chemicals with less-than-wholesome names such as propylene glycol..."

    Very disappointing, Dr. Karl.
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    These additives include sweeteners, such as honey, sugar or dextrose. Maybe it's just a coincidence that these sweeteners make rollies smoother for new smokers, such as children.
    LOL! Cuz you're forever seeing children rolling their own cigarettes in the playground, right? And I don't recall ever hearing of a new smoker starting off on rollies either?

    Is there any way we can find out what his sources for this information are? I find it really hard to believe there are more additives in rolling tobacco than tailor made cigarettes. Just by smell alone tailors seem more toxic to me. And honey is hardly a 'toxic chemical', although obviously not good to inhale the fumes from burning it.

    phenylcarbinol is used in nasal sprays. ethyl butyrate is a food flavouring that tastes similar to pineapple, so it's extremely likely we are all sucking it into our lungs via vaping, or if not then something similar.

    I also noticed that he compares the 'dry weight' of the chemical additives between tailor's and rollies, not the number or type of additives. I would think honey/sugar/dextrose would be quite heavy, compared to many of the more refined chemical additives.

    I think this is an ANTZ propaganda piece aimed at busting any complacency that rollie smokers might have towards their habit. If I remember correctly Dr Karl also spoke out against ecigs and vaping on the TripleJ radio segment recently?
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    My first thought when I read that article is well put in one of the comments by jumpnmycar:

    """In the Australian financial year of 2004-2005, smokers spent over 750,000 days in hospital €” leading to hospital costs of about $670 million."""
    And total tobacco tax revenue for that period was 6,560 million, so say thank you. Furthermore those deaths did have to happen, smoker or not, no-one is immortal.
    Some folk make decisions that bring forward their time of death and that's their business, not yours.
    I was convinced when I used to smoke that rollies are worse for your lungs and customs worse for your heart. Don't know why I thought this? Maybe read it somewhere.

    A second thought; it appears dr karl is going tobacco companies for saying rollies are natural / healthier etc but I'm pretty sure big tobacco are also in trouble for their actions in the 50s through 80s in trying to convince us customs were safer? It sounds like dr Karl is saying they were Telling the truth. Custom mades are safer. They were not lying on this point at least. Why this interests me is that anti smoking lobbyists tell us big tobacco were lying about these claims on custom mades.

    Next we will be told 8mg smokes are actually safer than 16mg afterall.

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    My once upon a time my Physiology lecturer who was a Cardiac Specialist stated that Rollies were less harmful than tailor made ciggies for several reasons.

    Most important was that you would roll them less tightly and therefore the oxygen intake was of a higher ratio to carbon monoxide. Also the chemicals were less, but tar could be worse.

    That being said he also stated that obviously that there wasn't really much in the way of health benefits for any sort of smoking.

    He smoked Drum
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    Quote Originally Posted by tom32 View Post
    My first thought when I read that article is well put in one of the comments by jumpnmycar:

    "In the Australian financial year of 2004-2005, smokers spent over 750,000 days in hospital - leading to hospital costs of about $670 million."
    And total tobacco tax revenue for that period was 6,560 million, so say thank you. Furthermore those deaths did have to happen, smoker or not, no-one is immortal.
    Some folk make decisions that bring forward their time of death and that's their business, not yours.
    I thought that comment was brilliantly put too....worth quoting again.

 

 

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