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    The Zone: A case of the vapours - Article in The Age today

    Another article on the Cancer Council's position on e-cigarettes with the views of Kylie Lindorff, manager of tobacco control policy at Cancer Council Victoria. As biased and uninformed as we have come to expect.

    The Zone: A case of the vapours
    RIP VP

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    So frustrating. It would be one thing if the average politician started to respond to claims from the (genuinely uninformed, not ignorant) voters, ie "we're looking into the safety of these devices", but it's a whole other world of aggravation to see public health officials be so vocal in opposition.

    AND I'M ALREADY SICK OF THAT "10 TIMES MORE DANGEROUS" GETTING TRODDED OUT
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    Today's guest in The Zone is one of the best-placed people in our entire nation to answer what is becoming an urgent health policy question.

    followed by:

    It is only possible to legally import nicotine e-cigarettes into Australia if you have a prescription from a doctor.

    She also mentions the Polish study on youth impact and thee Japanese one on toxicity.


    Anyone with a fairfax account: comments are still open

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    And that Japanese study has raised it's head again..... I think we will be hearing a lot of that one until people actually begin to read it as opposed to quote it...or quote others who have quoted it.

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    Polish teenagers vaping and tobacco companies investing to encourage dual use. Wow, Lindorff isnt pushing tired arguments at all.

    Then in the comments (not that she's actually responding to anyone challenging her perspective) has the nerve to suggest they're an "evidence based organisation".

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    They are editing comments left right and center, but some stuff is getting through
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    Wow, you'd think that with those "concerns about Big-T investing in the industry to promote dual use", that they'd be trying to keep the vaping industry OUT of Big-T's control* rather than introducing draconian legislation that is designed to hand them the majority of the market (and the entirety of the vaping retail sphere) on a silver platter.

    * Which would be as easy as hell to do. Introduce legislation similar to anti-trust or media ownership laws, where an entity owning, partially owning, a subsidiary of, or a majority shareholder in an entity that produces tobacco products cannot produce, own an entity that produces, (etc etc) vaping products. There. Big tobacco not in the vaping industry. May not be a legal piece of legislation to introduce, but hey - since when has that stopped the government when they've really wanted something?
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    These things.

    I have some things.
    I vape them.

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    My thoughts exactly Fractal

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    Lindorff was never a smoker,...
    Says it all. A person who's never experienced what it's like to have a smoking habit dictating and forcing policy that controls what smokers can and can't do to be freed of dependence on tobacco.

    The hardest thing Lindorff has ever done was write the eulogy for her mother's funeral earlier this year. She died of lung cancer. She was only 66 years old.
    Another Chapman.

    Rampaging crusaders. The passion for their own personal crusade completely cancels out any compassion, empathy or respect for those they pretend to be working for. They are like religious fanatics and fundamentalists, and create just as much suffering.

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    It seems there are mixed viewpoints at Vic CC, after all they said this quite recently in that Regulation paper:

    "While we await research findings on the efficacy and public health impact of ECs, smokers who are unwilling and/or unable to quit should be encouraged to try them where they are allowed on the basis that they are less harmful than continuing to smoke.

    In our view, a case is continually building for Australia to find a regulatory mechanism to allow access to these products for smokers who may be interested in trying them as an alternative to smoking, if not as an alternative smoking cessation strategy."
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