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Thread: Clive Bates - Spreading fear and confusion with misleading formaldehyde studies

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    Clive Bates - Spreading fear and confusion with misleading formaldehyde studies

    If your relatives or friends aren't telling you already that vaping is as worse as smoking already, they will be once the rags get hold of the next dodgy formaldehyde study and crank up the fear to sell advertising.

    http://www.clivebates.com/?p=2706
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    Hey tug, your link isn't working for me. I know lots on FB have had problems with Clive's website atm so I'll post the one that seems to be working.
    Spreading fear and confusion with misleading formaldehyde studies The counterfactual
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    good one....
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    Both links are not working now tug. Can someone else see if it is working for them please?

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    Works for me?


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    Thanks GT. I know lots in the US and UK are also having problems. Maybe accessing number of times affects? I'm sure he'll work it out as he is aware of it.

    Edit: Both are working again now for me.

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    Last edited by gtadmin; 22-01-15 at 12:21 AM.
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    Yeah this formaldehyde study released by the NEJM got pumped out to the socials before it was peer reviewed & now the usual gang of idiots who initially promoted it aren't responding to any questions. Their strategy (which seems to be really effective) is to own the conversation & ignoring all criticism, until the next favourable study comes out to support their agenda, then they'll do the same thing.

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    Re. 'first press' mentioned up-thread..

    Pankow conceded that the study could have contained more context about overall relative risk, but said the authors "just wanted to get it out."
    The way that last part is written, I could almost believe they were referring to constipation.

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    Although the article does not directly quote Dr Farsalinos or Clive Bates, it does seem to push the 'high voltage' side of it and put some of what Farsalinos/Bates are saying..

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