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    Admitting reason for the sudden decline in smoking

    "The downward trend in the tobacco industry may not just be the realization of heath benefits from quitting, but also the result of new, trendy vapor shops, which sell electronic cigarettes, opening around the (USA) and making huge profits."

    Smoking Industry Sees Profits Vaporizing With Electronic Cigarettes

    I think this article points to why there's so much opposition to vaping from all sides:

    1. government health agencies and tobacco control aren't driving the decline
    2. tobacco giants are bleeding profits
    3. pharma smoking cessation drugs are gathering dust
    4. those evil ex-smokers are still enjoying their nicotine, with added flavours and good health
    5. some evil ex-smokers are going into business and making big bucks
    6. nobody's paying the ballooning tobacco taxes meant to repay those toxic "payday loans" the US states took out

    I don't agree with all the article is saying, but vapers deserve credit where credit is due.

    And where's my local vape store?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pleski View Post
    And where's my local vape store?
    Just how local are we talkin'? You're in 'Sydney' and the Steam B&M is in Beaconsfield. So there is 'one in your town'. But are you talking 'corner shop' local? General area (North Hills District) local? Town local?

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    I wonder about this statement. I don't think even the yanks pay these sort of markups regularly at least with hardware anyway?

    "Entrepreneurs are not blowing smoke about their profits. Products and accessories are marked up between 200 and 400 percent with some electronic pens costing $250."

    They do seem to pay quit high prices for their eliquids though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davi View Post
    They do seem to pay quit high prices for their eliquids though.
    By that, do you mean..?

    They do seem to quit paying high prices

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaporific View Post
    By that, do you mean..?
    I'm so used to writing #quit on twitter, I forget how to write quite ;D
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    Ask Chapman & he'll tell you it's plainpacks driving the decline of smoking, which has only really dropped a few % since they were introduced, notwithstanding the fact that the downward slope was a trend that began and continues regardless.

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    I don't think there are enough vapers in Aust to have any statistical impact on the reduction of smoking here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JenJ View Post
    I don't think there are enough vapers in Aust to have any statistical impact on the reduction of smoking here.
    yet......
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    I know some small manufacturers barely make any profit on their items that are sold in vape shops, how much that is due to wanting to stay competitive, their high costs for small product runs, or the vape shops wanting a big profit margin I don't know. They try and make their profit from direct sales physically and from their web store.

    I'm sure others are making big profits, especially for big product runs of mechs made in China for a few dollars and sold to end consumers for $200.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JenJ View Post
    I don't think there are enough vapers in Aust to have any statistical impact on the reduction of smoking here.
    You know I'm with you jen but I was talking to the guy who owns soul blu in oz (long story) and he rekons they have over 2000 orders per week. Seriously! I know they're pretty big but that's more than I imagined and there seems to be heaps opening every week. So well maybe there are more of us than I imagined. I read somewhere that 17% of Australians smoke, and that a third of them have tried ecigs and that 7% of them are now regular users. That's at least 80 000 vapers. So where the f##k are they all? Dunno maybe we will have an influence soon. Just hoping all those people are using their nicotine and not buying their cigalikes kits for $100!
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