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    So it's illegal to possess nic liquid in NSW now

    Sp this sucks.

    The sale and possession of liquid nicotine, including in liquids in electronic cigarettes, is illegal under NSW Poisons legislation (Poisons and Therapeutic Goods Regulation 2008 NSW) without approval from the NSW Ministry of Health.

    From here.

    Anyone know how this will relate to importing nic liquid for personal use?

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    It makes no mention of importing which is obviously or probably a loophole in the law. I know for a fact that people are still ordering nicotine online, for how long we can do this, is a bit of a mystery.

    According to that sheet, it is in fact illegal to possess an ecig with nicotine. I suppose the police will have to arm themselves with a nicotine tester to be able to enforce it, or at least, everytime we get pulled up with an ecig, they will need to send a sample of the eliquid to a lab to have tested. Not very cost efficient, I don't think.
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    Yeah, I don't think carrying bottles with nic labeling on them would be wise.

    In terms of importing, once you receive your package you would then be in possession wouldn't you?

    It's frustrating that the government didn't bother getting personal vaping devices approved as therapeutic goods prior to this law change. Very crap policy on the run stuff.

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    I don't and never will understand this witch hunt before all the testing and facts come out.
    If possession is illegal then so is importing.
    They are condemning a lot of vapers and would be vapors to a death sentence on the cigs. how backwards our country is.
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    It is really shit policy, and appeals to the majority of the population who are non-smokers and therefore ignorant about what vaping is. It's pure populism from the NSW libs, but was actually brought to their attention when a Greens senator puffed a vaping device on the floor of the senate. Stating the current laws are "hypocritical" by not banning vaping like smoking. Even though its a completely different thing. So frustrating.

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    I think you will find impoting it comes under federal law which doesn't prohibit it but state law prohibit's possesion.




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    the customs page which outlined the fact it is not restricted federally recently vanished. but i think that is related to website changes as it is not listed as prohibited or restricted

    it is illegal to possess in all states. the problem with what was stated above about not labelling nic is it leads to arguments that "even local ejuice labelled as zero nicotine contains nicotine" by the powers that be

    the law came in in '09

    not really enforced though
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    Yeah, it's not just "now" - it hasn't been legal to possess nicotine in forms other than tobacco, NRT, and industrial pesticides (with a licence for the latter) in the first place.

    This stuff about importing a 3 month personal supply as an unapproved therapeutic good doesn't apply to you unless you have a doctors prescription that pre-dates the date you imported the nic.

    What we're falling under at the moment is a law that pre-dates vaping - so they haven't made it up to "get us" or anything, they just haven't changed it to accommodate us.

    It's not really being enforced unless you're selling (or they're out to get you for some other reason). The cops already know (and have known for a few years) most of us are running nic - what they're interested in enforcing and concerned about is the possibility of people running other more "potent" substances (hard, illegal in every form drugs). They don't have to test your kit if they want to know what's in it - they can drug test you. Much faster and easier.

    And yes, I 100% agree that the only reason we have dodgy sellers selling nic in "zero nic" bottles is entirely because of these stupid nicotine prohibition laws. Get rid of those laws (or more accurately - add nicotine juice as a permissible item to the poisons schedule), and practically overnight the market will be dominated by reputable sellers, selling pre-mixed juice with accurate labels, warnings, and childproofed caps.
    These things.

    I have some things.
    I vape them.

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    liquid nicotine...

    That would make these illegal also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bk_renesis View Post
    liquid nicotine...

    That would make these illegal also.

    doesn't count as schedule 7 since it is TGA approved for smoking cessation
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