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    Couple more articles - some good ones too!

    Research: Vaping is fun and vape shops are needed
    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...Shop_Customers

    and the shortened easier to read version-
    Examining the Smoking and Vaping Behaviors and Preferences of Vape Shop Customers


    High rates of smoking among schizophrenia patients attributed to nicotine's ameliorative effect (In other words smoking in schizophrenc people is used as a self medication- bringing up a whole host of ethical questions)

    High rates of smoking among schizophrenia patients attributed to nicotine's ameliorative effect


    US:
    Schroeder Institute Study To Mitch Zeller: Vaping Nicotine Does Not Cause Cancer
    https://www.rastavapors.com/blog/sch...-cause-cancer/


    News links via UK Vapers.org
    In the News December 5th | vapers.org.uk

    UK - Heart Foundation seeks smokers who want to quit via vaping
    Smokers who want to stub it out sought for electronic cigarettes clinical trial in Glasgow - Daily Record


    Counterfactual
    Bad science, accountability and courage - speech by AG Tom Miller

    Bad science, accountability and courage speech by AG Tom Miller The counterfactual

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    Dr. Farsalinos Is Sick And Tired Of Bogus Vaping Studies

    https://aspenvalleyvapes.com/dr-fars...aping-studies/


    BAT STUDY: E-cigarettes effectively deliver nicotine (I kinda went well derrr when I saw this)


    https://eurekalert.org/pub_releases/...-eed120216.php


    Could Synthetic Nicotine Save Vaping?

    https://www.ecigarettedirect.co.uk/a...ne-vaping.html




    Note VapingIt who posted or made? this video is a known advocate vaping blogger and social media advocate



    Couple older but interesting videos with a couple of older articles attached

    Episode 146- Nicotine: Pure Evil or Brain Fuel?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdqwYgFKxdU


    Episode 22 - Nicotine The Most Interesting Drug in the World



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTHJaACrTHs


    Diminishing Dependency

    https://nzillatron.wordpress.com/201...ng-dependency/


    Is Nicotine Really All That Addictive?

    http://ecigarettereviewed.com/is-nicotine-all-that-addictive?utm_content=bufferb3222&utm_medium=socia l&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer


    Also this a month or two old but interesting

    It’s the hand-to-mouthhabit!

    https://nzillatron.wordpress.com/2016/10/22/haptic-habit/







    Off topic - cause why not have a phd vaper doing this?
    PHD SCHOLARSHIP: INDIGENOUS COUNSELLING AND NICOTINE (ICAN) QUIT IN PREGNANCY

    PhD Scholarship: Indigenous Counselling and Nicotine (ICAN) QUIT in Pregnancy / Research Degrees / Research and Innovation / Newsroom / The University of Newcastle, Australia
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    'New generation of addicts' – US health chief's warning on vaping- Short version if TLDR- screw smokers wanting to quit or switch - what about the children?

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ral?CMP=twt_gu





    A clever twisting of language by researchers in the hope they might get noticed and tie thier research on smoking to vaping (why else was nicotine out of 4000 chemicals in cigarettes singled out in this? ) Thats the problem with having a 'trendy' topic - it seems everyone wants in even if they have to twist the language on virtually unrelated topics to do so....

    When smokers quit: exposure to nicotine and carcinogens persists from thirdhand smoke pollution

    When smokers quit: exposure to nicotine and carcinogens persists from thirdhand smoke pollution -- Matt et al. -- Tobacco Control
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    Chris: Tobacco free since 17:00 15th March 2013.

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    Off topic - but I dont get it

    University of Newcastle gets 10million dollars in funding to look at asthma and COPD etc (mostly good) - But part of which is also the Ican quit program that will be focusing at least 2.2 million on indigenous pregnant smokers

    These pregnant smokers will be counselled and given patches - essentially flogging the same dead horse that they have been doing for 30 years now obviously at great expense for taxpayers with the potential for creating yet more huge expense for taxpayers in the future - as recommendations will be predictable -provide free counselling, programs and patches

    and here we have vaping, and snus ...a couple of obvious and cheaper solutions,whichj could even contribute rather than take from the economy... but the government would rather thumb its nose at it -

    F*ck no wonder the national debt has quadrupled over the past few years
    Even from a financial perspective their decisions make no real sense

    https://www.newcastle.edu.au/newsroo...s-breathe-easy

    oh and Tasmania is not so much better with their bullshit yet another quitters app that they are releasing
    Anti-smoking app Quittr hopes to make quitting fun, help smokers pass craving hurdle - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)


    Some days I have no idea WTF I am reading ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rebelagainstthemachine View Post
    Off topic - but I dont get it

    University of Newcastle gets 10million dollars in funding to look at asthma and COPD etc (mostly good) - But part of which is also the Ican quit program that will be focusing at least 2.2 million on indigenous pregnant smokers

    These pregnant smokers will be counselled and given patches - essentially flogging the same dead horse that they have been doing for 30 years now obviously at great expense for taxpayers with the potential for creating yet more huge expense for taxpayers in the future - as recommendations will be predictable -provide free counselling, programs and patches

    and here we have vaping, and snus ...a couple of obvious and cheaper solutions,whichj could even contribute rather than take from the economy... but the government would rather thumb its nose at it -

    F*ck no wonder the national debt has quadrupled over the past few years
    Even from a financial perspective their decisions make no real sense

    https://www.newcastle.edu.au/newsroo...s-breathe-easy

    oh and Tasmania is not so much better with their bullshit yet another quitters app that they are releasing
    Anti-smoking app Quittr hopes to make quitting fun, help smokers pass craving hurdle - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)


    Some days I have no idea WTF I am reading ...

    I tried one of those apps once. Bloody disaster. Who wants to be reminded how long it is since your last smoke when you *really*really* want one.

    These idiots have no idea. In the end it will be smokers turning to vaping themselves that make the big difference, if they will only let it happen. All they have to do is stop making it so damn hard to switch.
    Chris: Tobacco free since 17:00 15th March 2013.

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    Hmm with all these articles i'm starting to think rebel is a bit of a nerd.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rebelagainstthemachine View Post


    oh and Tasmania is not so much better with their bullshit yet another quitters app that they are releasing
    Anti-smoking app Quittr hopes to make quitting fun, help smokers pass craving hurdle - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

    Yeah I saw that. What a crock.

    Theres only one thing for it.........Reb for PM


    FM Treasurer??

    Would that be like Hawke and Keating? Or Howard and Costello?
    Rabid non-smoker since 1630hrs 25/11/2016.

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    PMSL! Although Rockmoose I would be a firm but benevolent dictator - I would vote FM as sole leader any day - Lord knows he has deserved that houseboat a thousand times over - esp with all the free stuff he has done for people and various communities over time...

    Getting one at the taxpayers expense for me at least would represent justice well earned

    Also having fatman as sole leader of the country - would be funny as hell as long as you weren't in his firing line


    Quote Originally Posted by rockmoose View Post
    Yeah I saw that. What a crock.

    Theres only one thing for it.........Reb for PM


    FM Treasurer??

    Would that be like Hawke and Keating? Or Howard and Costello?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rebelagainstthemachine View Post
    Also having fatman as sole leader of the country - would be funny as hell as long as you weren't in his firing line
    Oh, if FM was PM he could ban people from the country... :-D

    Look out stupid people, you are in trouble now...
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