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  1. #1061
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    Newest thing blamed on vaping

    Vaping pilot linked to Air China plane's sudden plunge - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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    So, when you see the vapour trails in the sky, they are really vaper trails?
    It must be a 'pilot project'. I didn't think a pilot or co-pilot could wind down the window either........still up in the air about this 'fact'. Prolly plane as the nose on my face too.
    An uplifting story that all survived, bit of a drag they got sacked though. They got the qantARSE!
    When in doubt, use a bigger hammer.

    Smokeless from 10/02/15 Thanks immensely to AVFers old guard!
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    Im thinking that there really is no real reason for vaping to be banned on transport and dont know why they wont provide an area specifically for vapers


    If it was legally allowed - this situation would never have happened





    ďBut I donít want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
    "Oh, you canít help that," said the Cat: "weíre all mad here. Iím mad. Youíre mad."
    "How do you know Iím mad?" said Alice.
    "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldnít have come here.Ē
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    No vape or snus or ATHR news - but just wondering for those who venture on social media.. It seems to me that the anti smoking lobby is losing alot of public support ... I dont think i am going anywhere with this line of thinking ...

    but its just something I have noticed
    ďBut I donít want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
    "Oh, you canít help that," said the Cat: "weíre all mad here. Iím mad. Youíre mad."
    "How do you know Iím mad?" said Alice.
    "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldnít have come here.Ē
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    ďBut I donít want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
    "Oh, you canít help that," said the Cat: "weíre all mad here. Iím mad. Youíre mad."
    "How do you know Iím mad?" said Alice.
    "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldnít have come here.Ē
    Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland






    Comic Database: Steve Hughes... Offended?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHMoDt3nSHs











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    When in doubt, use a bigger hammer.

    Smokeless from 10/02/15 Thanks immensely to AVFers old guard!
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    Thought I should post something

    So this caught my eye from the retailers association au
    ARA supports calls for a smoke-free Victoria by 2025

    https://www.c-store.com.au/2018/07/2...toria-by-2025/


    This
    ‘CAUTIOUS SCEPTICISM’ NEEDED ON E-CIG SAFETY from AJP
    https://ajp.com.au/news/cautious-scepticism-needed-on-e-cig-safety/


    most memorable line
    “I don’t believe e-cigarettes are more harmful than ordinary cigarettes."


    From SBS news

    Vaping not as safe as previously thought
    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/vaping-not-as-safe-as-previously-thought


    CSIRO findings on vaping
    https://www.csiro.au/en/research/bf/...arettes-report

    Athras take on it
    https://athra.org.au/csiro-report-pr...rt-for-vaping/




    And a new vendors group has popped up called Australian Vape Vendors who are working along side the medical group ATHRA presumably like AVATAR they aim to standardise the market to benefit themselves (possibly based on the standardized medical model with of course room for thier own fingers in the pie )




    *I still think stock up - Our advocates really do support the watered down medical style model of vaping because they are too narrow minded and too chickenshit or too greedy to ask for more

    Also if you are going to start a vape business do it now before the market becomes completely monopolized and closed to new blood








    ďBut I donít want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
    "Oh, you canít help that," said the Cat: "weíre all mad here. Iím mad. Youíre mad."
    "How do you know Iím mad?" said Alice.
    "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldnít have come here.Ē
    Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland






    Comic Database: Steve Hughes... Offended?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHMoDt3nSHs











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    Maybe they'll listen to this guy! https://ndarc.med.unsw.edu.au/news/n...s-world-expert

    **NOTE: My location is Surfers Paradise, QLD.

    I'd add it to my profile, but Gmail keeps eating my password reset emails, so I can't login via PC, however I'm logged in via the phone app... so this will have to suffice for now!**
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    Well this section has gone to shit and only one sided news elsewhere and on stalkbook - so I will catch up and post all the new stuff in a day or so - from what I understand alot of new things are on the wind
    ďBut I donít want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
    "Oh, you canít help that," said the Cat: "weíre all mad here. Iím mad. Youíre mad."
    "How do you know Iím mad?" said Alice.
    "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldnít have come here.Ē
    Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland






    Comic Database: Steve Hughes... Offended?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHMoDt3nSHs











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    SO I have done the catch more or less and there is not a hell of alot to post in all honesty .. AVATAR the group whos interests are vendor based rather than comsumer based and who wish to create a tonne of laws to close the market and ATHRA who are medical based and if they get thier way Is also TGA medical and all the crap that goes with that who are dominating any media - then there is the usual nuts cori bernasd and other like him - whos interests a more corporate

    Im sure there is probably something by the NNA AU but theu are also medical based wanting to limit vapers choices through medical avenues like the TGA

    There was this in case you missed it about ALP and big tobacco

    Labor denounces big tobacco's push to overturn Australia's vaping ban
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/oct/04/labor-denounces-big-tobaccos-push-to-overturn-australias-vaping-ban


    In fact interestingly BT has been wrongfully or misrepresented mentioned a few times in the media in AUstraila
    another example

    How big tobacco hopes to get you hooked on vaping

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/money/fin...-e-cigarettes/



    Interestingly gizmodo australia remains anti vaping in general with garbage articles like this
    Vape Flavours Are Sketchy AF, Yet Another Study Finds

    https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2018/10/v...r-study-finds/

    and then attempts in humor like this (for fans of the character 'venom' but also ends up in the anti vape side so dont look for balance with Gizmodo au I guess which is a pity )

    We Asked A Biologist What Would Happen If You Vaped Venom's Alien Goo
    https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2018/10/w...oms-alien-goo/



    Oh Vapeforce 1 are still around with the nuttiest of pollies (also IPA ones) leading the charge - probably not a good way to get support from left leaning ALP (Although i have an off topic separate rant for that ) or moderate liberals

    Coral gartner the one that betrayed the vape community before is mentioned in this one - TGA push by the looks of it - but I like the snus thing

    Pay attention to the photo - the kids look 12 and 15 (I dunno could realy be 37yo but they look 12 and 15yo which is the point) so not a good look
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-...paign/10179224



    On facebook not much new - nna do thier TGA thing and support anyone who says hell yeah vaping but still dont look at the consequences of their support or their actions - kinda like saying TGA cause the mrs wont let me but shes fat enough that I am just happy to chuck talc everywhere while shouting any hole is a goal - really kind of amateurish and dumb really

    There are a couple of petitions one with even 2.5 k ish names - but I wont post them - I think is crap with very little to no disclosure by the instigators

    No one of interest or knowledge and no consumer based groups have yet emerged with purely vapers interests in mind

    Meanwhile while the above mentied groups run around looking for attention and a piece of the multi billion dollar pie - the bans march on across Australia with articles like this appearing

    More Canberra public spaces on smoking ban hit list
    https://amp.canberratimes.com.au/nat...8lm2EPDld6cGLw


    and then there are bullshit studies like these that noone anywhere really appear to be countering and talking about in the mainstream (funny how accross the world research for vape/snus is positive but in Australia it only tends to be negative.. no agendas here mate?)

    Curtin-led study finds few e-cigarette users vape to quit smoking
    https://thewest.com.au/news/health/curtin-led-study-finds-few-e-cigarette-users-vape-to-quit-smoking-ng-b88974147z


    So now you have been more or less updated - I still think stock up - if the government and puritanical do- gooders dont get you - our vape advocates who recruit dumb newbs who dont know shit about shit just might ;p




    On a side note - for me its just a pity noone in the vape community really questions anything any more - everyone worn down by our own communities bullshit I guess on top of the usual every one elses bullshit? I dunno - but it is sad
















    Last edited by rebelagainstthemachine; 29-10-18 at 10:00 AM.
    ďBut I donít want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
    "Oh, you canít help that," said the Cat: "weíre all mad here. Iím mad. Youíre mad."
    "How do you know Iím mad?" said Alice.
    "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldnít have come here.Ē
    Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland






    Comic Database: Steve Hughes... Offended?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHMoDt3nSHs











 

 

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