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Thread: Federal Inquiry into the use of electronic cigarettes and personal vaperisers.

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    i seen this on page 13
    Mr Dockrell: We have examples of a small number of children being exposed. There are roughly 150 calls
    per year to our National Poisons Information Service, of which under 10 are cases of severe toxicity. There have
    been no reported cases of fatal poisoning in children in the UK so far. We have had a number of attempted suicide
    by nicotine—mostly failed.
    i want to meet the person that though suicide via nic was a great idea

    That was an interesting read.
    Your right about chapman, i reckon he is shitting his pants thinking up some lie to tell the press if they ask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by margyb View Post
    Does this link work now

    http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/...352dc5/0001%22

    Yes it appears to be showing the meeting with UKPH and our politicians on ecig committee

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    CHAIR: I see from page 2 that you've been following our inquiry to some degree.

    Prof. Newton: We have, yes—and, indeed, some of the news reporting as well. I have a few things to say on the inquiry. I'll be brief, and we'll take questions. We were concerned that some of the material that you have been presented with was misleading in relation to the position in the UK. I don't want to labour this. We sent you a note that gives chapter and verse. The headlines are that it would wrong to think that what we're doing in the UK, particularly in relation to regulation, is different from what is going on in the rest of Europe. We are the same: we're all subject to the European directive, and we have implemented the directive to the letter. We have more regulation on e-cigarettes than any other country other than those that have a complete ban. We don't have a particularly clinical approach. For example, we've now introduced plain packaging. We take a very holistic approach. We very much value our specialist smoking cessation functions, but they are only one element of the tobacco control program. There's a lot of nonsense talked about—this 95 per cent figure. It's getting beyond a joke really. We are very clear that this is just one of the figures that we have used, and there are plenty more. We say what really matters is that evidence underlying this figure came from the Nutt report. Frankly, there's a lot of nonsense being talked about about what's going on in the UK. Some of it's accidental. Some of it, dare I say, is deliberate, and the thing that really upsets us is that people are not necessarily giving straight answers to straight questions. Perhaps I'll stop there.”
    Some of the best quotes from PHUK

    We were concerned that some of the material that you have been presented with was misleading in relation to the position in the UK. I don't want to labour this. We sent you a note that gives chapter and verse.

    'There's a lot of nonsense talked about—this 95 per cent figure. It's getting beyond a joke really'. 'Some of it, dare I say, is deliberate'

    It would be perverse at this point to say that,because of a potential risk in the future, we must continue to run a huge risk today. I see the whole thing in the context of the harm reduction strategy, which worked very well with needles and drugs, for example, that you don't make the best enemy of the good. You compare your existing situation against something that might be better rather than something that might be perfect.

    We do think there is convincing evidence from around the world that electronic cigarettes do help smokers to quit. 1.5 million vapers who have stopped smoking. There is an additional three-quarters of a million who have stopped smoking and vaping.
    It does come down to one's attitude to the precautionary principle. We think that, rather than waiting 20 years to get definitive evidence, we have to make the best decision on the evidence that's available now, and that points us towards cautious use of e-cigarettes.

    the number of young people who are using e-cigarettes regularly is very small, and there is no evidence that the use of e-cigarettes is encouraging young people to smoke

    'the gateway in is much, much smaller—we now know that from empirical studies all around the world—than the motorway out'

    Quit attempt successes in the UK are at unprecedented high, with one in five quit attempts in the last six months having been successful.

    There have been no reported cases of fatal poisoning in children in the UK so far.

 

 
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