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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingfox12 View Post
    None of the submissions that were given to you lot for review have been sent. As I said they were given for your opinions of what should be added to them or deleted from them so stop getting your nickers in a knot.\
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    EDIT: As to the other forum, it is a closed forum. Non members cannot read it.
    It doesnt MATTER if they have been sent yet or if people are wanting others opinions or are drafts ... if they are available for public view then they HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED !!!

    Thank you for modifing your post ..

    As to getting my nickers in a knot , you are well off track lol ... All I was doing was attempting to highlight posting of submissions IF they are to be submitted simply gives the powers that be an "out" , and a very easy out at that

    If anyone wants another member to throw an eye over their submission , feel free to do them in private , I am sure a good many members would assist ,
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllyP View Post
    You could well be right but we have to try, the committee has some really good people on it and at least three are pro vaping - but this inquiry has nothing to do with the TGA.
    The TGA is done and dusted - now we have another chance with something that really could make a difference and imo is more important than the TGA application.
    Yes they have been slow to load the submissions but they will get them up in the coming few weeks for sure.
    Sorry AllyP...Having dealt with a lot of politicians in my tired life. I have not found an honest one yet. I would rather believe in Santa Clause or the Tooth Fairy than believe a politician.
    I am 95.5% certain that this inquiry will be swept into the too hard basket. Honestly think about it.....If you could make say $100 from selling a product and its sales were rapidly declining by your opposition selling a product for $10 that does a better job....then would you be happy?

    They do not want vapes they loose to much in tax. Why do you think a lot of countries banned them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingfox12 View Post
    Sorry AllyP...Having dealt with a lot of politicians in my tired life. I have not found an honest one yet. I would rather believe in Santa Clause or the Tooth Fairy than believe a politician.
    I am 95.5% certain that this inquiry will be swept into the too hard basket. Honestly think about it.....If you could make say $100 from selling a product and its sales were rapidly declining by your opposition selling a product for $10 that does a better job....then would you be happy?

    They do not want vapes they loose to much in tax. Why do you think a lot of countries banned them.
    Fine, but one has to ask the question, why did you put your submission in? its there for all to see.
    I guess I am asking you to keep on track with this or just scroll past. One minute you are helping 25 vapers with their submission and in the next breath you are saying its a waste of time?
    Please forgive me for being confused
    Time to move on now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatman View Post
    It doesnt MATTER if they have been sent yet or if people are wanting others opinions or are drafts ... if they are available for public view then they HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED !!!

    Thank you for modifing your post ..

    As to getting my nickers in a knot , you are well off track lol ... All I was doing was attempting to highlight posting of submissions IF they are to be submitted simply gives the powers that be an "out" , and a very easy out at that

    If anyone wants another member to throw an eye over their submission , feel free to do them in private , I am sure a good many members would assist ,
    Ok I will bite, how do we get members opinions to submissions, as this is an open forum. Non members can read it. Is there a board somewhere that is for members only?
    Then again, what is to say there are no govt spys here as members? I some how do not think sending PM's in bulk would be appreciated nor possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllyP View Post
    Fine, but one has to ask the question, why did you put your submission in? its there for all to see.
    I guess I am asking you to keep on track with this or just scroll past. One minute you are helping 25 vapers with their submission and in the next breath you are saying its a waste of time?
    Please forgive me for being confused
    Time to move on now.
    I personally think it a waste of time. If people ask me for my help in drafting a document I help them. What they choose to do is their business. If they want to waste their time with politicians their choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingfox12 View Post
    Ok I will bite, how do we get members opinions to submissions, as this is an open forum. Non members can read it. Is there a board somewhere that is for members only?
    Then again, what is to say there are no govt spys here as members? I some how do not think sending PM's in bulk would be appreciated nor possible.
    There are no closed sections for members ....

    I think every vaper preparing a submission , would at least have an idea of a member who could help them or they admire enough to seek out .. there is no need for "Mass PM's"

    The submission process is not about making the perfect submission that YOU or I agree with , but it is about each individual submitter educating the commissioning group with how THEY the individual see vaping ...

    Anyone making a submission needs to do so with THEIR thoughts and observations .. not a politically generic rant form letter ....

    The submission is meant to be a personal testament, if a submitter has to be prompted to include details they originally didn't consider , then either those details were not important to them at the time , or if they were indeed overlooked or forgotten , I also believe it is perfectly fine to submit an addendum to your original submission ....

    No one is marking these things .. honesty and personality that moves someone is more important ( IMO ) than a wall of facts ?
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    Please anyone considering submitting please do it. Anyone not wanting to, change your mind and do it.

    This inquiry is possibly the only chance we will have to change things.

    More submissions means more vapers that want change.

    Do it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingfox12 View Post

    Whilst I am mentioning the above doctor, I note that he has been silent on this new inquiry and neither have I seen anything on the website from that doctor that heads up the NNA AU.
    I think you might be wrong with this FF... Dr Colin Mendelsohn - Tobacco Treatment Specialist :: Government inquiry into electronic cigarettes begins today
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    Hi all
    Hope it is OK to post this ( if I can remember how to do it )

 

 
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