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Thread: 100 consecutive puffs of an Ecig, causes just as much DNA damage as cigarette smoke

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    100 consecutive puffs of an Ecig, causes just as much DNA damage as cigarette smoke

    Who would have guessed?

    Here is the study in question: —аг€ƒзка с‚а‚Œи,
    and supplementary data : http://pubs.acs.org/doi/suppl/10.102...118_si_001.pdf

    And here, are the critiques of this study:

    3D Printing Proves Scientists Really Have No Clue

    https://thenextweb.com/insider/2017/...#.tnw_iV9KPX3f


    Just as we saw in the recent Larcombe report , these researchers who have absolutely no idea how vapers actually use their devices, attempt to conduct some new methodology that have no bearing on the real world.

    Using the same apparatus to test High VG ejuices and PG ejuices is absurd. I know for a fact that 80% VG ejuice will burnout an aspire Triton coil in less than 2 days, yet a Clleito or Plato coil pumps through 80% VG like a red hot knife through butter. The Larcombe report is trash, and should be disregarded.

    Likewise, this recent Kadimisetty report above is equally absurd. They dont mention what the ejuice is, nor even the coil or how its wicked or how much wattage was pumped into the coil. Yet 100 CONSECUTIVE vapes without break is supposedly valid methodology. Still, you have to give them credit. At least they didnt pump 7 Volts into a CE4 clearomiser. That level of absurdity is still yet to be challenged.
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    From the study..

    Arrays were printed with three sample chambers that feed three
    detection channels designed so that sample solutions flow directly
    across shallow 1 mm wide, 10 nm deep microwells on the detection
    chip to facilitate reactions with enzyme/DNA films in the wells
    Wow, that is one accurate 3D printer - 10nm deep.

    What a load of sh**.

    This does not make sense:

    From the supplementary data..
    3D printing specifications.
    Resin: Formlabs Clear Photopolymer resin FLGPCL02
    Printer: Form1+
    Resolution: 0.05 mm
    0.05mm = 50000nm - no where near 10nm.
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    Well I'll give them a positive for possibly inventing some new scientific equipment for testing purposes, by using a 3D printer. The rest is shite

    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleVapes View Post
    Who would have guessed?

    Here is the study in question: —аг€ƒзка с‚а‚Œи,
    and supplementary data : http://pubs.acs.org/doi/suppl/10.102...118_si_001.pdf

    And here, are the critiques of this study:

    3D Printing Proves Scientists Really Have No Clue

    https://thenextweb.com/insider/2017/...#.tnw_iV9KPX3f


    Just as we saw in the recent Larcombe report , these researchers who have absolutely no idea how vapers actually use their devices, attempt to conduct some new methodology that have no bearing on the real world.

    Using the same apparatus to test High VG ejuices and PG ejuices is absurd. I know for a fact that 80% VG ejuice will burnout an aspire Triton coil in less than 2 days, yet a Clleito or Plato coil pumps through 80% VG like a red hot knife through butter. The Larcombe report is trash, and should be disregarded.

    Likewise, this recent Kadimisetty report above is equally absurd. They dont mention what the ejuice is, nor even the coil or how its wicked or how much wattage was pumped into the coil. Yet 100 CONSECUTIVE vapes without break is supposedly valid methodology. Still, you have to give them credit. At least they didnt pump 7 Volts into a CE4 clearomiser. That level of absurdity is still yet to be challenged.
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    The thing is...you have to remember when crap comes out you have to follow the money.... who funded and benefits??.....

    "Joining Kadimisetty and Rusling on the study was former UConn Ph.D. student Spundana Malla, now a scientist at Alliance Pharma in Pennsylvania. The study was supported by funding from the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences of the National Institutes of Health."

    Reference: E-cigarettes 'Potentially as Harmful as Tobacco Cigarettes' - UConn Today

    Just sayin'...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jemor View Post
    The thing is...you have to remember when crap comes out you have to follow the money.... who funded and benefits??.....

    "Joining Kadimisetty and Rusling on the study was former UConn Ph.D. student Spundana Malla, now a scientist at Alliance Pharma in Pennsylvania. The study was supported by funding from the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences of the National Institutes of Health."

    Reference: E-cigarettes 'Potentially as Harmful as Tobacco Cigarettes' - UConn Today

    Just sayin'...


    Interesting.

    Alliance Pharma last year acquired the dermatological Technology company; Sinclair Pharma.

    https://www.ft.com/content/9d0ad360-...37208?mhq5j=e2

    Perhaps Alliance Pharma is preparing to enter the nicotine patch market with its newly acquired patents?

    Sinclair Pharma

    Expect more of these studies and bullshite conclusions

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    Show me the Money lol lol.
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