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    We're Not Alone! Global Issues and Consequences.

    A continuing education.

    I think I mentioned somewhere previously that I had downloaded all the INNCO (International Network of Nicotine Consumer Organisations) 2017 conference in Warsaw from youtube. I've been slowly watching them with much interest and thought I'd post the links to a few (what I think) relevant ones to Australia here for those of you who may also be interested in the politics and sciences from professionals and the people working behind the scenes on vaping in general.

    Keep in mind not all of these presenters are vapers, although some are.

    Of course, you can watch all the videos if you wish, but with 54 video's some may not be relevant to your interests.

    I'll probably just post 1 per day or so, but please continue discussion on them if you like.

    #2 - 36:00 mins. The Michael Russell Oration - Ethan Nadelmann https://youtu.be/ZLBtTfk6x1Y
    #5 - 13:46 mins. The health effects of snus: a review of the evidence. Dr Peter Lee https://youtu.be/LnQWBFaUX2U
    #6 - 16:17 mins. Toxicant and carcinogen exposure in NRT and e cigs - Dr Lion Shahab https://youtu.be/LQXJrvI0jBo
    #7 - 21:02 mins. Toxicant exposure: a comparison between e-cigarettes and heat not burn technology.Presented by Dr Konstantinos Farsalinos https://youtu.be/7rHfiochhOg
    #8 - 19:11 Heated tobacco technology, science, behaviour and avoiding unintended consequences. Presented by Dr Moira Gilchrist https://youtu.be/EFi-4ouc9yY
    #10 - 10:56 mins. FCTC 5.3 what does it mean for you? Presented by Jeannie Cameron https://youtu.be/Oz2tsn1vIeE
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    #2 - 36:00 mins. The Michael Russell Oration - Ethan Nadelmann https://youtu.be/ZLBtTfk6x1Y

    This, to me was a brilliant presentation.

    He talks about the problems between illicit drugs and licit ones such as nicotine. Certainly opened my eyes on a few facts.
    Last edited by Jemor; 06-07-17 at 02:54 PM. Reason: Forgot a bit.
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    #5 - 13:46 mins. The health effects of snus: a review of the evidence. Dr Peter Lee https://youtu.be/LnQWBFaUX2U?list=PL...EJ5LhxSRNaOnb0

    This is for the Snus users, but also shows the how the EU has banned it except for Swedan - mind boggling!

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    #6 - 16:17 mins. Toxicant and carcinogen exposure in NRT and e cigs - Dr Lion Shahab https://youtu.be/LQXJrvI0jBo

    This was health related. This Dr. is also a vaper.

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    #7 - 21:02 mins. Toxicant exposure: a comparison between e-cigarettes and heat not burn technology.Presented by Dr Konstantinos Farsalinos https://youtu.be/7rHfiochhOg

    This video by Dr Farsalinos also explains what HNB products are and how they work.

    I'm also putting in this post the next video which is also related and from PMI (Philip Morris International)

    #8 - 19:11 Heated tobacco technology, science, behaviour and avoiding unintended consequences. Presented by Dr Moira Gilchrist https://youtu.be/EFi-4ouc9yY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jemor View Post
    #2 - 36:00 mins. The Michael Russell Oration - Ethan Nadelmann https://youtu.be/ZLBtTfk6x1Y

    This, to me was a brilliant presentation.

    He talks about the problems between illicit drugs and licit ones such as nicotine. Certainly opened my eyes on a few facts.
    Jemor what a wonderful speech, he touched on a few issues that are hot buttons for me, such as the way the prohibitionists have been encouraged and aided to demonise smokers {and probably soon the chubbies} and to treat them as sub human low life--they have cut right across the human rights of people not to suffer discrimination for merely {as he said} putting a substance into their own body, which is a human right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gert View Post
    Jemor what a wonderful speech, he touched on a few issues that are hot buttons for me, such as the way the prohibitionists have been encouraged and aided to demonise smokers {and probably soon the chubbies} and to treat them as sub human low life--they have cut right across the human rights of people not to suffer discrimination for merely {as he said} putting a substance into their own body, which is a human right.
    Exactly Gert, mind you I can't really stand being around smokers now either (because of the smell) and from that point of view as a smoker, I guess you could say, it's not just you you are harming. Though looking at some science into that aspect is also debatable, so maybe it's only the smell that's offensive, but then so is B.O.

    My whole thing is No One has the right to tell anyone else how to live as long as they are not harming you.
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    #10 - 10:56 mins. FCTC 5.3 what does it mean for you? Presented by Jeannie Cameron https://youtu.be/Oz2tsn1vIeE

    This one is my favourite of all! It's not long, but to the point.

    I didn't want to put this up before the Inquiry had closed for obvious reason's, but I have checked everything she stated in this on the FCTC site starting here Part I: Introductionand it's all there for everyone of the 180 countries that have ratified their signing of this treaty and is binding. You can even check the countries involved. Unfortunately the USA is NOT one of them though Obama did sign it when he was a senator, according to the website. I'm not sure where that really leaves the U.S. but watching what she says carefully, they still might be legally liable.

    Though I don't really agree with all in this treaty in terms of smokers of combustibles, but it sure shows why countries are now confused with vaping if they don't read it properly, EXCEPT that has also been covered BEFORE vaping was even a thing.

    I did include this in my submission in all its glory to remind them of their commitment as Jeannie suggested we do. Her website is here if you wish to view it. Tobacco & Nicotine Harm Reduction

    I'd love to have all your feed back on this one, so will wait a few days before I post any more suggested videos, as I think it's probably the most important of all at this point. It even shuts Chappo up!! He doesn't have a leg to stand on it seems, according to FCTC.

 

 

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