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    Yup im with Cams...the natural instinct is to go tobacco vapes when trying to transition to vaping, but you will prolly find like myself and many others that you will quickly learn to hate tobacco vapes - i lasted 2 weeks before i went off it, and ive tried real extracted tobacco juices a few times since i started vaping and every time it has reinforced for me that i will never smoke again (not to mention even the whiff of a real cigarette quite a bit quicker than you'd think). As Cam says pick other non-tobacco flavours as well, fruits are generally a good bet...i went form tobacco flavour to blueberry for instance, and the blueberry was far better than the synthetic tobacco...which brings me to mentioning dont expect to find a tobacco flavour that tastes even close to a real cigarette, unless its a naturally extracted (and expensive) one. These are the only ones ive ever found to get close, the rest are facsimiles of tobacco, close but no cigar. So dont tie your transition attempt to trying to get an exact match for a winnie blue...grab other flavours, you'll likely do much better than trying tobacco flavours only, being underimpressed and reaching for the cancer sticks....

    Ready to vape juices are perhaps perfect for the initial transition, but they can be the most expensive way to vape, later on diy (by buying nicotine base from overseas - recommendation from people here, and mixing with locally bought PG and VG, plus your choice of local or OS flavours) will make it far cheaper. Ill also mention my baby, unflavoured...that is just nicotine base + VG + PG...no flavouring. when i first started i assumed you had to have flavouring in your juice as it must taste awful without, but no...a member mentioned "have you tried unflavored?" on here over 2 years ago (and fairly early on to me starting) and it was like a revelation, and thats what ive vaped for over 2 years almost entirely (apart from a few days here and there trying flavours, that ultimately disappointed). Which is part of the reason i mention it...for those who find flavours disappointing, unflavoured can be a lifesaver...i literally do not know what id have done when i got so sick of disappointing flavours without it. Unflavoured is also the cheapest way to vape, my current weekly outlay for vaping (using rebuildable tanks, where i build the coils myself) and the way i vape/amount of juice i use, which is low, is a massive $0.47, youre not misreading that, 47 cents...its a total mindfudge after 35+ years of smoking and the ever increasing cost...when i started smokes were $1.20 a pack...

    Ask any questions you like, theres no dumb questions here, only odd people to answer them

    As for gear, you say you had an iStick 60W tc kit, im assuming with a Melo tank?

    I wouldnt necessarily call going to vapresso starter style kit like the Drizzle a step forward, unless you prefer a tubular style device over a box mod style device.
    For many reasons, least of all battery time - tube style = less battery time than box mod (which itself can be either inbuilt battery or changeable batteries - further enhancing run time). Tube style starter kit generally have a 1000mah battery +500mah..a box mod with a changeable battery means you can swap 2500/3000mah batteries at will...of course this means you will usually want a multi bay external battery charger and multiple batteries - this is what most of us do. Want a box mod with a longer running battery than the average tube style starter kit mod? well they make those two...right up to the 5000mah internal battery powered Evic VT/VTwo. My first friend i converted didnt want to be charging batteries, so i got him 2 x Evic VT's (5000mah each, one on charge or as backup, and one in use) and he's still using them 2 years later, not even slightly interested in buying any different gear since he got them. Which brings me to, if you want your best chance at giving up the fags, the juice is only half the equation, get good gear, and get a backup..i.e. buy 2 devices..always have a backup...especially if youre going the tube style starter kit devices...not only because they have less battery power

    There will be a lot of info to absorb along the way, especially with suggestions, dont be afraid, we've all been where you are now...

    Some common vendors basic devices pages - explore beyond the starter kit areas at your leisure and feel free to ask for feedback/suggestions or anything youre interested in

    http://www.vapeking.com.au/kits/ (top tip, generally if youre buying a common tank that uses prebuilt and common coils, VapeKing will usually be cheapest, but always check around just in case)

    https://vapoureyes.com.au/ (main page, cant link direct to starter page, due to the design)

    https://www.wickandwireco.com.au/col...urne-australia

    These are just the 3 most commonly used local vendors i have bookmarked, theres more out there.

    The general rule on buying gear (hardware) is if you want it really quick, buy locally
    If you want it cheap and are prepared to wait (sometimes at worst up to a month), buy overseas
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    See what I mean Juzzo? I have a suspicion the journey just begins. Happy travels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxsmd View Post
    Hey Juzzo, how country is "country SA"?
    150km north of Adelaide
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juzzo View Post
    150km north of Adelaide
    Alice Springs Sth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stylemessiah View Post
    Yup im with Cams...the natural instinct is to go tobacco vapes when trying to transition to vaping, but you will prolly find like myself and many others that you will quickly learn to hate tobacco vapes - i lasted 2 weeks before i went off it, and ive tried real extracted tobacco juices a few times since i started vaping and every time it has reinforced for me that i will never smoke again (not to mention even the whiff of a real cigarette quite a bit quicker than you'd think). As Cam says pick other non-tobacco flavours as well, fruits are generally a good bet...i went form tobacco flavour to blueberry for instance, and the blueberry was far better than the synthetic tobacco...which brings me to mentioning dont expect to find a tobacco flavour that tastes even close to a real cigarette, unless its a naturally extracted (and expensive) one. These are the only ones ive ever found to get close, the rest are facsimiles of tobacco, close but no cigar. So dont tie your transition attempt to trying to get an exact match for a winnie blue...grab other flavours, you'll likely do much better than trying tobacco flavours only, being underimpressed and reaching for the cancer sticks....

    Ready to vape juices are perhaps perfect for the initial transition, but they can be the most expensive way to vape, later on diy (by buying nicotine base from overseas - recommendation from people here, and mixing with locally bought PG and VG, plus your choice of local or OS flavours) will make it far cheaper. Ill also mention my baby, unflavoured...that is just nicotine base + VG + PG...no flavouring. when i first started i assumed you had to have flavouring in your juice as it must taste awful without, but no...a member mentioned "have you tried unflavored?" on here over 2 years ago (and fairly early on to me starting) and it was like a revelation, and thats what ive vaped for over 2 years almost entirely (apart from a few days here and there trying flavours, that ultimately disappointed). Which is part of the reason i mention it...for those who find flavours disappointing, unflavoured can be a lifesaver...i literally do not know what id have done when i got so sick of disappointing flavours without it. Unflavoured is also the cheapest way to vape, my current weekly outlay for vaping (using rebuildable tanks, where i build the coils myself) and the way i vape/amount of jucie i use, which is low, is a massive $0.47, youre not misreading that, 47 cents...its a total mindfudge after 35+ years of smoking and the ever increasing cost...when i started smokes were $1.20 a pack...

    Ask any questions you like, theres no dumb questions here, only odd people to answer them
    Wow! Thanks for the detailed response Stylemessiah. Had no idea you could vape without a flavour of some sort.
    From what I have read Blacknote is very a good tobacco flavour, but very expensive. And maybe Totally Wicked.
    I do not have a real sweet tooth, so maybe a coffee or subltle flavour is the go. I just feel I have to give a tobacco flavour a try to start with, but knowing I will change to something else after.

    thanks heaps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocM View Post
    Alice Springs Sth?
    Long way south of Alice, Kadina, Yorke Peninsula.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juzzo View Post
    Long way south of Alice, Kadina, Yorke Peninsula.
    Good old Kadina hey, I spent 5 years in Peterborough SA, the place of puddles turning to rock solid ice in winter and weeks on end rarely dropping below 45 lol.
    Cheap rent but can cost you your sanity and I never even want to drive through that town again. SA is truly the desert state haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juzzo View Post
    Wow! Thanks for the detailed response Stylemessiah. Had no idea you could vape without a flavour of some sort.
    From what I have read Blacknote is very a good tobacco flavour, but very expensive. And maybe Totally Wicked.
    I do not have a real sweet tooth, so maybe a coffee or subltle flavour is the go. I just feel I have to give a tobacco flavour a try to start with, but knowing I will change to something else after.

    thanks heaps.
    The unflavoured thing is a revelation to many Was to me

    Yup Blacknote is prolly the most well known, but yeah...cost

    In general tobacco flavours maybe try something like an RY4 if you want tobacco + sweet..my first flavour

    I know my convert liked an espresso coffee flavour above all others he tried, and we went to our local bricks and mortar with a huge flavour testing bar...

    There is the odd good caramel, butterscotch i have found almost universally eww...the worst tasted like burnt wood.

    I did toot maple syrup for a week ro so, but then i got sniffed hungrily by a female accountant, but thats another story

    Tastes are subjective as previously mentioned

    Nowadays and for a long time its been unflavoured...tastes almost like nothing, slightly sweet from the VG, but satisfied me like no flavour could, im just in it for the nic

    Its quiet tonight, i suspect you'll get more suggestions over the next day or two
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juzzo View Post
    Wow! Thanks for the detailed response Stylemessiah. Had no idea you could vape without a flavour of some sort.
    From what I have read Blacknote is very a good tobacco flavour, but very expensive. And maybe Totally Wicked.
    I do not have a real sweet tooth, so maybe a coffee or subltle flavour is the go. I just feel I have to give a tobacco flavour a try to start with, but knowing I will change to something else after.
    I started with a tobacco flavour, it's what worked for me. After I went off tobacco flavours I tried fruits and deserts but didn't find anything I could vape all the time. Eventually I went with a light tobacco flavour that had so little in it, it almost was unflavoured, and I stayed with that exclusively for a few years. These days I'm starting to like my flavours a bit more, and my ADV (all day vape) has a bit more flavouring in it than it used to, but I'm still loving it.

    We all have a different journey. If something isn't working, it just means you have to try the next thing, but yes if you find yourself in a bad place with flavours, there's *always* unflavoured. Enjoy your journey...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fabricator4 View Post
    I started with a tobacco flavour, it's what worked for me. After I went off tobacco flavours I tried fruits and deserts but didn't find anything I could vape all the time. Eventually I went with a light tobacco flavour that had so little in it, it almost was unflavoured, and I stayed with that exclusively for a few years. These days I'm starting to like my flavours a bit more, and my ADV (all day vape) has a bit more flavouring in it than it used to, but I'm still loving it.

    We all have a different journey. If something isn't working, it just means you have to try the next thing, but yes if you find yourself in a bad place with flavours, there's *always* unflavoured. Enjoy your journey...
    We have the same tastes fab I'm a 1% tobacco lover or unflavoured after trying many flavours. Actually unflavoured is my ADV with the occasional tobacco just for a change, one tank exclusively for unflavoured and the other gets the low dose tobacco rotation between just 3 flavours, hell I don't even change the coil and it fades beautifully between the 3 tobacs.
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