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Thread: New stuff, reviewed? Ammit, Melo III, iJust 2, ECL and ceramic coils. Rayon!

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    Bummer Sully those are the small port coils, just go easy and don't chain vape, you'll be right. There's always next time.

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    Everything I could find says the 0.18 ohm coils are not stainless, as in I couldn't find mention of them being stainless.

    That'll be nice to take the strain off the little 40W thing. Got it all the way cranked, and it's like an old truck. Hit the button and wait for it to gather itself up and off it goes.

    Pico is eleaf's small single 18650 mod. I've got that Arctic fox on it now and it's a heap better than it was, which wasn't too bad at all.

    Everything I'd ever read about eleaf's tanks seems to be "they work, but meh". I got that impression which is why I avoided them somewhat, all while having all 3 of my mods made by them and none of them missing a beat. I know they've had some misses, but I've been fine.

    I was looking for something to back up the iJust actually, as that was the one I wanted. I was so impressed with those test tanks (they had about 30 or so, all filled, all waiting, as W&W said they just work) I had to have one as a 'just works' and the Melo seemed like the updated version, so I got that.

    If I'm being honest, the Ammit is heaps cooler, slicker and all of that but in terms of getting the job done the Melo is maybe a little better. No fussing, just use it. iJust too. And the Ammit cost as much as both of eleaf tanks (I get hardware from Healthcabin, they're as local as I can get).

    There's a place and healthy market for cool and whatever, but for anyone who's spent time on the tools there's nothing better than something that just gets the job done with no fanfare. I don't need cool (but I like it), I just want something that works. Eleaf is doing that and I regret not knowing that sooner.

    (I've got a slick, cool all in one thingy here that's got a dud button and no way to rip it apart without killing it. It wasn't expensive, but I've got to re-case it if I want to use it again. That's crap.)

    Ok, seems the 0.18 ARE stainless...

    If there's anything to take away from this, the iJust tanks are ones that folks should just grab as a backup at least. Get one, leave it on the shelf and when everything else stops playing, use it. No bells, no adjustments, it just works. Wouldn't even bother with the airflow control one (iJust S), but that's a cheap option too.

    Fab, I'll get that done before the end of the week. If I can work out how to send it...

    (I spend the value of a nice new car every year at the Post Office, but angel farts in a box are something I have never had to ship...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schtoo View Post
    The Ammit has rayon in it now with a not gunky liquid, and after a full tank the wick looks like new, even though the TC is tending to switch off. I dunno what it is, but this and the Avocado both tend to be flaky for TC. They'll fire up fine, but then the resistance sways and the mod decides "new tank" and switches to wattage mode. Still, after a few hot shots no dry hits and that wick is as fresh as a daisy.

    Stu.
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    It's hard to know what is going on but if the resistance is lower than expected, the programme may pull it out of TC.

    Reasons for wandering resistance could be: Shorting contact coils, loose post connection, dirty 510 connection, Loose centre post etc.
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    Wandering resistance is right, but whatever it is it's none of the above unless it's a built in problem.

    (I is sparky. I make good connections.)

    Maybe I'm putting too much coil in there, and heatsoak is raising the resistance 'set' and that's throwing it. Less coil, less heat, less soak, less ohm floating.

    I'm not being gentle on these things and the temp fluctuations are pretty big. Older Japanese houses have NO insulation and drafty, so you end up running big heaters just to keep the chill off. Maybe that's part of it too.

    I do find if I take a few 'cold' draws to get some air through them brings the resistance down, so I can only put it down to things being warmer in there than they should be for longer than the 'brain' in the box thinks it should be and it's trying to help. Problem is it gets anaemic, I crank the temp, then it re-sets lower resistance on that temp and cooks everything.

    Even with 'locked' resistance, it goes silly so I don't know. Intermittent fault...

    I used to be good at finding those... :/

    Stu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emu View Post
    Bummer Sully those are the small port coils, just go easy and don't chain vape, you'll be right. There's always next time.
    I'm pretty certain that the 0.18ohm is the ECL and not the older EC coils as they didn't come in EC coils.

    EC 0.15 Ohm TC-Ni
    EC 0.25 Ohm Notch coil
    EC 0.3 Ohm
    EC 0.5 Ohm
    EC 0.5 Ohm TC-Ti

    ECL 0.18 Ohm
    ECL 0.3 Ohm
    ECL 0.5 Ohm
    ECL Ceramic 0.5 Ohm

    Sorry if i'm filling your thread with junk info Stu.
    If you want them deleted, happy for you to report the post to get it deleted.

    Cheers.
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    Tez, never! I'm learning as well.

    If there's one thing I've never been accused of it's being concise and on topic...

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    I agree with Fab, rayon generally lasts longer than cotton for wicking but both have different properties.
    Rayon is less absorbent but transports juice faster, it is more tolerant of heat than cotton.
    Cotton is more absorbent & transports juice slower, it is easier to singe the outer layer of cotton due to not being as tolerant of heat.

    I find that for coils with a smaller inner diameter, rayon is the best choice, since there is less wicking material inside the coil, thus less juice in reserve & you need faster transportation of juice to compensate in most instances.
    In coils with at least 3mm inner diameter or larger, cotton is usually the better medium for wicks, its absorbancy means there is a good reservoir of juice & it will fill up juice flow slots better for lower likelihood of flooding.

    In either type, you want fibers that are long, straight & all running in the same direction.
    A lot of cottons are made from short fibers or manufactured with small "balls" or knots in the cotton, these knots are choke points & reduce the flow of juice.
    A lot of rayon has fibers that criss cross & this reduces transport speed of your juice.
    Consider short fibers a bit like this, you want to get from your house to the shops, you get in your car drive to the neighbor's house, get in their car & drive to the next house & so on & so on until you get to the shops, with long fibers you get in your car & drive to the shops, with fewer stops along the way.

    I'd be interested to take a look at these rayon pads, even if just a PM of a link for where to get some
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noe View Post
    A lot of rayon has fibers that criss cross & this reduces transport speed of your juice.
    Consider short fibers a bit like this, you want to get from your house to the shops, you get in your car drive to the neighbor's house, get in their car & drive to the next house & so on & so on until you get to the shops, with long fibers you get in your car & drive to the shops, with fewer stops along the way.

    I'd be interested to take a look at these rayon pads, even if just a PM of a link for where to get some
    I think we'll find with Rayon that there's a bit of variation in how it's carded too. Some products maybe intentionally made with crossing fibres to better use the absorbency of the entire pad. That's why I'm interested to see these ones and compare them to KU. Since Rayon is a man-made product it should be possible to make the fibres as long as you want them. Everything we use is intended for a different industry like cosmetics. If someone made specialist stuff for vaping I think it would be done differently from the start. (BT companies doing "research" into vaping would be better off finding ways of making a better product. They have the resources to do this stuff, but I honestly don't think a better product is what they are after. More stupidity I guess.

    It's possible to re-card the KU (someone was doing that on the Rayon thread - by brushing it out) but to be honest I can't be bothered. I've just been cutting and rolling.
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    Noe, PM me an address and I'll send along some sheets. They weigh nothing and envelopes and whatnot I have plenty of.

    They really are 'that' cheap. Cheaper than cotton I think.

    And they're very much like a fine, soft scotchbrite pad. If someone had a microscope with a camera attachment and could take a really detailed picture we could all see what they looked like up close like...

    (No, I don't have one. No, I really don't. Just ignore that big camera sitting on top of that big, black chunk of precision filled with lenses. Nothing to see here...)

    Stu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iamtezr View Post
    I'm pretty certain that the 0.18ohm is the ECL and not the older EC coils as they didn't come in EC coils.

    EC 0.15 Ohm TC-Ni
    EC 0.25 Ohm Notch coil
    EC 0.3 Ohm
    EC 0.5 Ohm
    EC 0.5 Ohm TC-Ti

    ECL 0.18 Ohm
    ECL 0.3 Ohm
    ECL 0.5 Ohm
    ECL Ceramic 0.5 Ohm

    Sorry if i'm filling your thread with junk info Stu.
    If you want them deleted, happy for you to report the post to get it deleted.

    Cheers.
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    Yeah Tez the ECL has the bigger juice port for the wick, the "L" = Large juice port and they are Stainless Steel wires, 0.18 and the 0.3.

    You can see the difference in the port size in this pic....

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    Tsunami 24 plus ( I can see in the window ) - Eleaf Melo 300
    Eleaf 40 watt TC - Pico - Kanger Dripbox 160 watt Squonker - Smok Skyhook RDTA - Ijoy Maxo Quad
    Gave the rest away

 

 
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