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    Genesis Reviews

    Thought I would start off a Genesis Mod Review section as they seem to be the flavour off the month with hardcore vaping enthusiasts, and on the verge of going main stream with so many modders and suppliers about to bring one out.

    I am a relatively new genesis user so take that into mind with my starting reviews, but hopefully I will encourage others to add their comments and reviews, to help potential new genesis buyers out.

    I will start out by saying that vapor production on a genesis mod can vary, based on your set up from at least as good as your best clearo/carto/atomiser set up on standard ecigs to around 25% better. Flavour is significantly better, and TH/Warmth can vary from equal to or cooler than standard gear. The longer you use them the better you can tweak them to what you like, but be prepared to spend many frustrating days at first just to get them going and a few weeks of fine tuning to get excellent consistent performance. Many people see some of the genesis video reviews of people blowing out huge vapor clouds, its possible, and the genesis mod when set up right out performs other gear, but with long inhales and the right juice, alot of standard gear can be made to look impressive too. For me the extra flavour and fact you can make up an atty when you want for next to nothing is the main selling points of buying an genesis atty, the bit extra vapour is a bonus.

    A wick will last up to a month and a coil around a week, so once you get used to making them, 5 mins isnt really much a week to spend making and repairing them. Throat hit will start off a little harsh sometimes for around the first 30 minutes but settle down into relatively cooler vape than say dripping on an atty, but simliar to an Ego C , but overall the plusses significantly outweigh the minuses for me with genesis atomisers.


    Heres a pic of a Katana in 18650 mode versus a SS line on a 1000 mah Ego Twist battery.





    Katana by POC
    Quick Specs

    Cost $220
    Stainless steel all in one mod.
    18650 and 18350 battery tubes tube attachments
    3ml plastic juice reservoir with outer stainless steel cover with slots to see juice level

    Overall I give this mod a 6.5/10, the out of the box set up tweaks are the main concerns and shouldn't need to be undertaken, but once you get through them, its a enjoyable mod. The bottom button is not the best as well.

    Pro's
    - Flexibility to cater for different battery configs
    - Well made, quality build (needs some tweaking out of the box though)
    - Tank is protected with the SS sleave/cover
    - Not alot can go wrong with this mechanical mod, so it should be long lasting
    - Excellent performance, once you get it set up (but refer below as its a journey with this mod for many)
    - With the delrin base, and even though the posts are close to the wick, i find that this setup is quite easy to avoid shorts, and secure the coils with the top screws
    - Comes with a spare juice tube and screws.

    Cons
    - Can take alot of fiddling out of the box to get working. I bore out the juice fill hole and air intake hole, and adjust the top battery contact point, and the switch still needs working. As a newbie genesis user, its hard enough at first to get your wick and coil making basics in place, when you throw in the above adjustments, it will be enough to have many genesis newbies listing their katana in the classifieds before 2 weeks are up. If I had known of these issues before I bought it I would have bought another mod like the Zenesis or Orion most likely. However now that I have fought through these issues I am really quite happy with this mod.
    - Unless you use a kick with it, it is not VV, while this is not an must, I find with the Line it is really nice to be able to adjust the voltage/wattage to taste. Also as the wicks/coils wear in, its nice to again be able to turn the voltage up a little, as the ohm's performance drops down a little as the wicks settle.
    - A few threads are not perfect on the mod and a bit rough
    - The tank is not glass so need to be carefull with juice choices, but I have never had any issues with any plastic gear with the tobacco juices i use.
    - The juice fill hole has a real fiddly screw, so most would fill down the wick with a syringe versus using the juice fill hole. Many need to leave the juice fill screw out to get better airflow and this can lead to leaking when on its side
    - I prefer not to have a bottom button, as while this has a locking mechanism, its a pain to screw up and down when leaving it up right, and it is susceptible to inconsistent firing issues.

    heres a video review for a closer look

    REVIEW OF THE KATANA ELECTRONIC CIGARETTE - Scott Bonner


    The SS Line

    Quick Specs
    Cost $110
    Genesis Atomiser only with standard 510 connection to use on mod
    All SS body, except 510 atty connector
    Holds around 1.8of juice

    Overall 7.5/10 (as a newbie genesis user , get one of these ahead of a katana). Looses points as it is prone to having the atomiser connector snap is your not carefull, but use it with a shorty cone cover and you will be right. It produces maybe a tad less vapour than some of the others, but I tend to get a very nice smooth, warm vape from this atomiser, which keeps me coming back to it during the day.

    Pro's
    Quite thin (same as a ego)
    No need for any tweaking straight out of the box like the katana
    Excellent Performance
    For some reason a slightly smoother fuller vape than the katana - dont ask me why, suspect it is because the cap is so small.
    Quality workmanship and will be long lasting if you dont snap the 510 connector (some have had to return them with faults on receipt as well though)
    Tank is SS so dont worry about what juices you use
    Cheaper and you can use on your existing mods, including VV devices so its nice to be able to tweek to taste. (Prefer using an ego twist as while they may be a bit long (1000 mah) they fit well and are more forgiving compared to others like the provari which will throw up error messages, unless the work is spot on

    Cons
    Small juice capacity
    Prefer having screws to secure the coils not a biggy though
    Can leak if lefy on its side
    I find it slightly less forgiving in terms of shorts compared to the katana, but you soon master that
    Need to be very carefull with dropping, as the connector is weak and will break (use a shorty cone ego adapter to protect it)
    Very minor risk, but I wouldn't want to bend the coil posts too much.
    Doesn't quite blow the clouds of vapour as some of the others.


    Heres a video/tutorial for a closer look by the same reviewer as the katana. Its a line v2 versus the SS I have - main difference is the slots to see the juice levels

    REVIEW OF THE GENESIS LINE V2 REPAIRABLE ATOMISER - YouTube
    Last edited by Mickg33; 25-07-12 at 10:06 AM.
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    nice Mick,
    Eagerly waiting to see some more models added to this to compare with'
    Dis a big tear down and rebuild of my iAtty today, working nice 1.7 coil @ 4V is very good but it's basically a good performing CE2.
    Can't wait for the DID to arrive
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    you do a great review mick.i will try to post something of relevance on the weekend.
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    Anyone got a RAT tank that could do a review?

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    Bit lazy so will just do some ten second reviews.

    Orion v2.1

    Hybrid 3.7v device $200 plus
    Pros
    Great small mod in 18350 or even 18650
    Hits hard and consistently, doesn't need vv
    Quality build and looks
    Easy to set up, great vapour and one of the warmer Vapes for a genesis, produces great flavour
    Great side button for those that hate bottom buttons

    Cons
    Small 2ml juice capacity
    Built in drip tip, not for everyone, but not bad to use
    Can't use a kick as it is a +ve tube
    Many have experienced leaks and switch issues. The mechanical switch will only last so long, so longevity is the main concern with this mod

    Score - 8.0/10 if I could only have one genesis this would be it, so far. I like it so much, I have scored it higher than I should given the leaking and switch issues many have had, and needed to fix.


    Gtank

    Inverted genesis atomiser by sturm ! Can only buy second hand now

    Pro's
    Inverted tank really does keep the juice flowing very well
    Great vapour
    Quality build
    Very easy to change juice with the pull on and off juice tube, 2ml capacity
    Like the standard whistle tip, but I have a 510 adapter as well

    Cons
    Inverted wicks are a little fiddly to set up, but not too bad, just an extra minute or 2
    Vape is quite cool as it has further to travel past the juice tank to your mouth
    Can get a Little condensation but not an issue
    Not really a con, but I think best suited to use with a vv mod, as a bit of voltage tweaking makes it shine.

    Score 7.5/10 great mod, if you don't mind a slightly cooler vape

    DID

    Genesis atomiser $100 ish delivered

    Pros
    Can order from a site , no lists, is a big plus
    Vapes really well, middle of the road interms of vape warmth
    Easy to set up and pull part
    Solid build
    Good juice capacity, didn't check but around 4mls
    Can use Dct clear tanks without modding
    Relatively cheap

    Cons
    Looks fine but perhaps not as flash as some other mods
    Draw is a bit airey, but not too bad! This may be a pro for some
    couple of threads are a tad rough, but not bad.

    Score 7.5/10 if you want an easy to get genesis and prefer airey draws this is the genesis for you.

    From left to right line v2 and twist, Orion, precise 16340 and GTank, uranos and DID, SS line and ego twist


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    Last edited by Mickg33; 19-08-12 at 12:06 AM.
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    Sounds like the best two is the Zen and the orion both hard to get.
    Move along!!! Nothing to see here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckane View Post
    Sounds like the best two is the Zen and the orion both hard to get.
    Best is very subjective, I like the Orion for its size and side button, it's small enough for me to take out and about, and I while I use them I am not a fan of bottom buttons. At home I do use them all at the momment, and like the lines on an ego twist, but they are a bit long for out and about, for me anyway.

    I have dropped the score on the katana , now i have tried a few more genesis mods, and it is the only one i wouldnt buy again, it is too rough around the edges, and needs to many out of the box tweaks, and its too big for me, but many others love them, as they are still selling way above cost, so it's all subjective.

    Noticed a few orions being sold recently, there was one for sale on nu vapor just yesterday, but they aren't easy to get, just like the zens.
    Last edited by Mickg33; 22-07-12 at 08:18 PM.

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    Keep up the reviews mick it helps save me money
    Move along!!! Nothing to see here.

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    have been thinking about why i like the orion so much and in part its the side button,the don(ex ckane) is just not as comfortable.uranos shows up this week and then the paps,maybe not a smart move to get 2 bottom button tubes.see what happens i supose.
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    I can't believe how small the orion is. The don was great in 18350 mode, I've seen you can get a 18500 sleeve for the don now that would of been perfect.
    Move along!!! Nothing to see here.

 

 
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