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    EL TORO/House of Liquid ejuices

    Finally! After being opened by Customs (a little slip in it said "Customs and Border Protection found nothing of concern in your parcel or letter and did not remove any items") and waiting 3 weeks it's finally here! Well, at least it's steeped reasonably well! I would've been tempted to vape before it was steeped otherwise.

    First juice: El Toro Virginia 50/50 PG/VG, 12 mg/ml.

    It's quite clear, a light yellowy colour which surprised me; pleasant light smell on opening.

    Vaping: needs low voltages, 3.8 on my Comet; any higher and it starts to taste burnt.

    Woah, nice throat hit, full bodied but smooth. Moderately smoky, slightly sweet on the exhale; very mellow. Like a fresh packet of golden virginia tobacco just opened. A bit like a good Dunhill or other higher end cigarette. Closer to an analog than anything else I've ever tasted. This could easily be my all day vape, as long as the PG doesn't dry my throat too much (been avoiding PG for the last few weeks).
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    Hey VoG, HoL juices will kill Comets pretty quickly, the gunk that builds up on the coil of an atty or carto is quite a bit more than non-steeped juices. So you will notice a drop in vapor production on your comet much sooner than normal.
    As far as I know, the HoL juices are 50/50 PG/VG but to me they don't seem to be that high in VG, they seem to have less, I don't know why that is but there is just something about them that doesn't produce as much vapor as my 70/30 PG/VG mixes but I am told they are 50/50.

    Haven't tried the Golden Virginia yet but the other El Toro flavors are quite similarly very analog tasting juices too. On Xmas day I was vaping the Guevara Reserve & getting quite drunk, it could have been a good quality cigar I was vaping, it was so close in taste.
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    I know these are reknowned for being atty killers but I was surprised at how light the colour was and I was having to stuff around with my cotton wicking vivinova so I thought, what the hell, lets just charge the comet and have a go. Eager as a bull in a cow pen. I have heard that Georgio is introducing a new ultra filtration system so perhaps this surprising lightness reflects this new system and it might be ok after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vapes of Groth View Post
    I know these are reknowned for being atty killers but I was surprised at how light the colour was and I was having to stuff around with my cotton wicking vivinova so I thought, what the hell, lets just charge the comet and have a go. Eager as a bull in a cow pen. I have heard that Georgio is introducing a new ultra filtration system so perhaps this surprising lightness reflects this new system and it might be ok after all.
    All the juices are light in color, that I have got thus far. Not sure if he has introduced the filtration system yet or not but none of the juices were what I'd call dark in color before the new system either.
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    Well, been vaping the Guevara on the Vivi most of the day but with a cotton wick that was a bit too thin for the bigger coil that I made (experimenting with the boundaries of cotton wick thickness vs coil). So wasn't really able to hit it well and it wasn't performing at it's best so I won't review that one yet, although it certainly is good from the limited experimentation I've done. However, I was pretty amazed to see the coil was pretty clean when I took it apart this evening. This is despite pushing the volts up to 5 for a fair bit of my vaping time in an attempt to get more vapor (although as I said the main fault was going too thin with the cotton wick). This could be an indication I've got some of the stuff with the new filtration system.

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    The Guevara

    A very complex juice. Again, the same light almost greenish yellowy colour, although darkening as I've vaped it all day.
    This one's at 18 mg. Vaping it on a standard silica wick on the vivinova at 2.4 ohms.
    Much more punch. Very interesting changing the voltages. At low voltages it's quite mellow, not sweet at all though, and very tobaccoey. As you get into the high 3's and low 4's it gets a bit of a sour grass taste that I don't really like. But up in the high 4's around 5 volts it goes, KABOOM! Vicious throat hit and smokey cigar flavour, really similar to a great cigar. A bit harsh on my PG sensitive throat to vape all day though. I can see the potential for a real analog replacement at high volts. I'm too scared to push the volts any higher. It's ferocious!

    I'm finding an interesting phenomena with these juices, that if I vape them at night I don't get the insomnia and palpitations I sometimes get when vaping cleaner juices. Perhaps it's the non nicotine alkaloids.

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    Puros

    Well, vaping the Guevara at high volts did end up hitting my atty hard and I had to use dental picks as well as rinsing in bicarb of soda plus a few dry burns to get the atty back to normal!

    Puros; OH MY GOD this is the best! No grassy taste, really nutty and caramelly, no mercy with this one, it just hits hard straight away at the low volts and more than 3.8 is too much! It's pass-out good, the first vape I've had where I have to say ENOUGH and put it down and don't feel I need any more. It's beaten me! The spot is hit. The itch is itched. It is done!

    I know folks say it's not an all day vape but; why not?

    I've heard it's similar to the Ciggarillos. Might have to try this one too (I only got 3 with my order plus a sample).
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    The juices taste great but you get maybe 5-6 mls in a gennie before you have to actually pull the wick and clean it from my experience, its a gunk-ariffic fluid for sure........

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    Yes, a very good description, "gunk-ariffic", I'm only using vivi nova heads but I can rebuild them so doesn't matter too much. Definitely needs a dry burn at least daily but it's worth it.

    I do wonder if the Guevara in particular and maybe even the Virginia might benefit from some more steeping. It's been steeping for 3 weeks but it may well need longer.

    Really in love with the Puros for the most authentic and enjoyable tobacco taste with a big bold hit and perhaps some WTA characteristics. (Might just be my imagination, but if imagination works, why not?)

    Are the Ciggarillo's just a milder version of the Puros?

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    I've put almost 15ml of Cigarrillos through one SR Boge and its still going OK.
    Maybe I got a good one, because that's the limit normally for me.
    Definitely responds well to a bit of heat !
    5.2v on 3.0 ohm.

 

 
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