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Thread: Classified Rules ... READ AND ABSORB ... Ignorance is not an excuse !

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    Classified Rules ... READ AND ABSORB ... Ignorance is not an excuse !

    *** Classified Rules ***

    The classifieds are a place that allows community members and community members ONLY to sell occasional products time to time. It is not intended to facilitate commercial levels of trade and is not intended for use by vendors. Should you wish to breach this an infraction will be placed against your account, multiple infractions could lead to a ban.

    The seller has the right to ask whatever price they would like for an item however sellers should also be aware that should the item you are selling be available for a lower price in total including with shipping that members are authorised to disclose this information provided the requirements are met. Please see below for more details in the "Allowed responses section".

    Outside of this the classifieds are run as a free market and the administration and moderation team will not be controlling nor influencing either buyers or sellers for any reason provided the rules are followed. Please do not open further threads on the forum discussing the classifieds or the rules that are put in place. Should you continue to do so an infraction will be placed against your account and multiple occurrences could result in a ban.

    1) If you are caught shill bidding or encouraging others to bump your thread to generate more than a natural level of interest all of those involved will be banned.

    2) There is to be no selling of NEW items within the classified section. Only vendors may offer new items for sale and they may not do so within the classified forums, only through vendor forums and subforums.

    3) The ONLY thing that should be PM'ed between both parties concerned is personal details and banking/paypal details.
    ALL BIDS OR OFFERS FOR THE ITEM are to be IN THE THREAD and not in a PM

    4) All threads must contain an item location in the thread title. All posters must have their location filled out in profile.

    5) If you're not bidding, asking a genuine question, or providing a link where the item can be found at a lower price, then do not post. More information on allowed post types is listed below.

    6) No sales using the PayPal gift option. ALL sales made using PayPal must be via the 'goods' option in PayPal. This provides a level of protection for both buyer and seller.

    7) No nicotine or juices containing Nicotine are to be sold or traded on this forum. This also covers using slang terms to hide the trade of Nicotine juices. Take it offsite. ZERO TOLERANCE. You will receive a 48 hour ban for your first offence and your thread will be removed. Further breaches of this rule will lead to your permanent removal.

    8) If you are selling an item elsewhere please do not offer it for sale here. If we find out we will close the thread.

    9) Please respect honesty in advertising , if you are selling gear that is not made by the original designer/retailer( i.e. a copy clone or counterfeit) you must disclose it in the title of the ad e.g "Nemesis ( copy) for sale" or "Nemesis (clone) for sale" . Likewise if you are selling Authentic equipment it is in your best interests to include that information e.g. " Nemesis ( Auth.) " Failure to identify it as a copy may result in the ad being deleted at the moderators discretion.

    Allowed response types on for sale threads:

    Allowed Reply Types:

    There are four types of response I and the moderation team will consider acceptable in a for sale thread, if you can not meet the following criteria or do not intend to purchase do not post
    or you will receive an infraction on your account, multiple infractions will result in a ban:

    * Bids: No lowballing, they must be based in reality. If the item is offered starting at 1000 and you bid 200 dollars you will be considered to be trolling and your post will be removed. If the seller has listed a reserve and stated that they will not accept bids below the reserve, do not bid below the reserve. All bids are final, failure to conclude the purchase with the seller will result in an infraction. Multiple infractions will result in a ban.

    * Questions for the seller regarding the specifics of the item for sale: Questions or posts that have nothing to do with the sale at hand will result in an infraction being placed against your account, multiple infractions will result in a ban.

    Links to a shop where the same item is available for a lower price, with shipping taken into account: The item must be available and in stock for shipping at the time of the sale.

    Replies from sellers to any of the above.
    Last edited by Fatman; 18-11-14 at 09:01 PM. Reason: Adding Point 9
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    AVF Rules , Read and understand them

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    Point (2) updated 23 May 2014 ( by Jato )

    2) There is to be no selling of NEW items within the classified section. Only vendors may offer new items for sale and they may not do so within the classified forums, only through vendor forums and subforums.


    So taking from this change ... ALL items in the classifieds are to be sold as USED/PRE-OWNED items and priced accordingly ... there is to be NO trading of NEW items by Vendors or Members
    Vendors should advertise any items they have for sale in the Vendor General section , their website , or their AVF subsection if they have one .
    Last edited by Fatman; 23-05-14 at 07:15 PM.
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    AVF Rules , Read and understand them

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    Guidelines on the community aspect of our Vaping Classifieds



    Please be polite at all times in the classifieds .

    Vaping has changed a lot in a very short time and here at AVF we like to welcome ALL vapers , experienced or rank newbies
    That said our classifieds are a little bit different to a "Normal" for sale section ... We like AVF vapers to share the love and not treat Vaping as a business .
    This is why we often have the best prices for some high end mods from time to time that you will ever find ... because we encourage our members to CARE about the community and look after their fellow AVFers .

    Whilst haggling isnt overly encouraged , as we urge our members to list fairly , if you feel you MUST haggle please do so with the following in mind

    Be respectful , dont offer out silly offers hoping to drive prices down , if they dont sell because the community deems the price too high for the current climate, it is up to the seller to relist or change the price as they see fit . Not be nagged, guilt tripped, or bullied into doing something they dont want to

    First person to meet asking price wins ( provided seller wants to sell it to them) ... if you are offering , you are NOT concluding the sale ... this is also WHY we want all offers etc in the thread and NOT in PM .

    If you cant pay full price and say "I will take it at the asking price " then the item is on the market til the seller agrees to a reduced offer .
    You want to save a buck , then the item isnt "yours" until the seller agrees to the offer .

    Really folks all of this is common sense , and a touch of courtesy doesn't go astray ... if the classifieds are going to become a wall of rules and people trying to skirt them , then I for one can do without them ( even tho I do feel they are an asset )

    Common Sense Rules ok !

    Remember a buyer doesn't OWN a mod until the seller agrees and its paid for .
    A seller doesn't HAVE to accept ANY offers !
    First in best dressed ONLY applies to those who meet the sellers criteria and asking price !

    About time the minority of buyers who expect the classies to work FOR THEM learnt some respect and manners ... Items offered in this community have historically been to benefit others and share the love AT A FAIR PRICE ... you dont like that price , dont buy it ... you can ASK politely for the seller to consider an offer , but this does not mean you are first in line , the only way that happens is if you give a FIRM commitment to the seller ON HIS/HER TERMS and follow thru in a timely fashion .


    TLDR? If you want a discount you dont qualify for first in best dressed .... if you want to guarantee the purchase, pay the asking price !

    *these are guidelines only prissy pants need rules , we are all grown ups here ... respect courtesy and politeness will get you far young padiwan !


    Preparing and sending mods

    Although it shouldn't need to be said , someone buying a used mod at a fair price is also entitled to receive that mod in a good clean condition .... I think all of us at some time have felt a little let down when buying a secondhand mod and it arrives in a shitty state
    Please take the time to clean your mod before sending ... if its an atomiser drain it , clean it, remove grungy wicks if fitted .
    If you are selling it with a coil for a nervous vaper , please make sure its a fresh build and ready to add liquid and Vape .
    If it uses cartos , proprietary coils etc toss them and fit a new one if you have it ...

    Oh and PLEASE pay special attention to things like drip tips ... no-one wants dried flakes of your spit all over the place

    Please pass on your gear in the same state as you would expect to get it from a dealer yourself

    Like mentioned before , respect and courtesy goes a long way
    Last edited by Fatman; 22-09-14 at 12:51 AM.
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    AVF Rules , Read and understand them

 

 

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