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    PM-ing in the classifieds

    Once upon a time there was a vaping community , full of like minded basically honest individuals , who wanted to look after each other and try to make everything open and transparent in our classifieds .... It was a dignified way of doing things , and it wasnt based on " Hey its good for me ... eff everyone else "

    So all transactions were nice and neat and open for all to see , it also gave a bit of history to a certain item , you could say "Ah yeah that was so n so's and they reckoned it was the bomb " etc etc . Also It showed openly the trends for the values of mods and gear etc ... It gave newbies an idea of and WHY things were worth what they are on the market.

    Now as AVF attracts more and more people , its only stands to logic that more and more "shifty" people will frequent the classifieds ... People who do not post in the community , and only want to farm the classifieds for bargains , taking advantage of some of the fairest prices on the net for quality gear ... those who send low-ball offers etc thru the PM system , trying to beat a seller down , or cut people out of the deal ...

    This isn't how we do stuff here ... and it isn't what I think we should become .

    I fully understand that a seller doesn't want to "Dob" on people who PM them , and so these people get away with bucking the system to their own advantage.

    They aren't PM-ing YOU to do YOU a favour ... they could just as easily say they want it in the thread , instead they CHOOSE to PM you and put you , the seller , in a hard spot ... only out of their OWN sentiment of self entitlement
    Why should they be rewarded for that ... its like giving your kids an ice-cream cos they went behind your back and asked mum after already asking you ...

    Just selfish and has nothing to do with community or respect for the classifieds here

    Sad part is .. the people that do this behind every-ones back dont really care and will probably be thinking "Get yer hand off it Fatman ! "

    All I ask is that as a seller and a community member ... YOU dont let them win by doing backdoor deals ... take a stand hey?

    To those who do .. Thanks .. you are preserving the community in the face of growth and ever increasing pressure to not give a crap
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    well said sir.

    it seems to be happening more and more frequently. much to the detriment of what and i hope still is our community.
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    Agreed, Do mods read the messages sent through PM for when new members obviously flaunt the rules and speak of PM's being sent? Do you just see that a PM has been sent?

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    Well said Fatman. Well said indeed.


    Honestly, either join the community for what it is and respect that, or sod off. Anyone who's sending PM's and has been here for more than 5 minutes should know better. You'll get a whole lot less bargains if the classies get closed for being too much trouble.
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    Hear hear.
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    A suggestion..probably been suggested before....
    Take a page of our brothers and sisters at ECF and arrange it so new members can only participate in the classifieds after a certain amount of posts in the community?
    Just a thought
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawks View Post
    Agreed, Do mods read the messages sent through PM for when new members obviously flaunt the rules and speak of PM's being sent? Do you just see that a PM has been sent?
    Mods can't see PM's or if they've been sent, only an admin could. So if no one reports it, they have no idea and people get away with it.

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    Nobody wants to be seen as a dobber.. that's the problem.. it's part of our culture. What these people do, ultimately, is put the whole classies system at risk. If it becomes too much of a hassle to manage and police (and we shouldn't have to police it at all.. it should be that everyone behaves themselves in an upstanding manner with each other) the classies might just go *poof* all together. Now that would be awful for everyone. Keep it in mind next time you receive a message from someone about your FS thread or if you're tempted to negotiate by PM. I'm betting it's the same few people who PM every time... it's predatory and selfish.
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    we are lucky / un-lucky here in some respects, most forums (and not just vape forums) require a minimum post count to be able to view / post in the classifieds. a free run of the for sale area is a luxury not a rite and should be treated as such. there are rules which are pretty clear cut. for the sake of everyone here already and those in the future these rules should be followed
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWH View Post
    A suggestion..probably been suggested before....
    Take a page of our brothers and sisters at ECF and arrange it so new members can only participate in the classifieds after a certain amount of posts in the community?
    Just a thought
    A mod can't configure this, has to be done by an admin
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